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Re: OT# Hey Scott in Florida -
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In article <hQoWh.2098$no.653@trnddc02>, "Jeff" <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com wrote: "dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message news:question*mark-7FA55E.08573321042007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com... In article <P5idnYtKraT8YrTbnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com>, "mark_digital©" <XXX-976 (AT) commacast (DOT) com> wrote: If all my talk about dimmers has upset your stomach, I'm sorry dbu. Where in heavens sake did you get that idea? I am just trying to educate you. You are education us. On how people, such as yourself, who don't have a clue and are totally misinformed can draw such stupid conclusion. You're proving the old computer adage: garbage in, garbage out. Jeff Jeff, your constant rubbish talk about GWB our President and Iraq as told to you by your puppet masters is enough to make a maggot regurgitate. |
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I can only assume you are narrow minded, and an easily led minion of the far left wing extremists, moveon.org and others. |
yourself.
--"I'm also not very analytical. You know I don't spend a lot of time
thinking about myself, about why I do things." G.W. Bush, June 4, 2003
(http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...030604-3.html).
So we have a President who makes decisiosn that affect millions of lives,
including the lives of countries that we invade, and he doesn't think about
why he does things.
I think that, and the fact that you susport this asshole, says it all.
Jeff
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"mark_digital©" <XXX-976 (AT) commacast (DOT) com> wrote in message news:AIudnckA65MjebTbnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com... snipped Don't use dimmers. They generate globs of RFI. Some brands are better than others but they are all dirty. -- Radio Frequency Interference? As far as I can tell, dimmers haven't been a problem. Light fixture/motion detector combo units (screw detector in first and then screw light bulb into detector) caused verifiable interference with my FAX/phone unit and another telecommunication piece of equipment. Like I said, dimmers haven't been a problem. As a matter of fact, every single GE and Phillips sunlight spectrum incandescent that's connected to the dimmers have lasted longer than any fluorescents. Dimmers extend longevity. I understand there's a finite limit of tungsten, so finding a good substitute ahead of time isn't unreasonable. What is unreasonable is for the government to get everyone excited about digital TV, and yet so far they use many more times the amount of electricity than a typical CRT. And for every watt that produces heat it takes two watts to cool. Some politicians may think they are showing and advocating, but it's from the heart and not the mind. Are you still with me or did I lose you after the first sentence? Bruce B is a lot more knowledgeable about this subject than I am, but I'lll give it a shot anyway. The motion detector probably causes interference because it is transmitting a signal that some other electronic devices pick up. My understanding is that dimmers extend the life of incandescent bulbs because they reduce the voltage to the bulbs, so they produce less heat and light, which extends the life of the filaments. Someone once suggested that using bulbs rated for 240 volts would last longer because they are effectively working at half of their rated voltage in household use. |
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In article <F0qWh.569$nR1.70@trnddc06>, "Jeff" <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com wrote: Assuming makes an ass out of you. More accurately, you make an ass out of yourself. --"I'm also not very analytical. You know I don't spend a lot of time thinking about myself, about why I do things." G.W. Bush, June 4, 2003 (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...030604-3.html). So we have a President who makes decisiosn that affect millions of lives, including the lives of countries that we invade, and he doesn't think about why he does things. I think that, and the fact that you susport this asshole, says it all. Jeff You are more guilty of assuming things than I am. Where is the open mindedness of the liberal? Can't stand to have someone disagree with you? |
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You think your ideas are the only right ones? |
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Again, you are just a narrow minded minion with blinders. |
His comments confirm this.
Jeff
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In article <mhqWh.574$nR1.525@trnddc06>, "Jeff" <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com wrote: "dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message news:question*mark-D5BB33.10372821042007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com... In article <F0qWh.569$nR1.70@trnddc06>, "Jeff" <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com wrote: Assuming makes an ass out of you. More accurately, you make an ass out of yourself. --"I'm also not very analytical. You know I don't spend a lot of time thinking about myself, about why I do things." G.W. Bush, June 4, 2003 (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...030604-3.html). So we have a President who makes decisiosn that affect millions of lives, including the lives of countries that we invade, and he doesn't think about why he does things. I think that, and the fact that you susport this asshole, says it all. Jeff You are more guilty of assuming things than I am. Where is the open mindedness of the liberal? Can't stand to have someone disagree with you? You're welcome to disagree with me. So is anyone else. You think your ideas are the only right ones? No, I don't. And they sometimes turn out to be wrong. Again, you are just a narrow minded minion with blinders. At least I am able to analyze myself. Even Bush says he is not analtyical. His comments confirm this. Jeff -- Have a nice day jeff. -- |
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I would like to point out something I learned recently from my electrician when I told him my florescent tubes were failing prematurely. He said the tubes must be kept on. (Left, instead of kept, if you like) |
Reduce that run time to a half-hour per start, and they drop off
dramatically - there are only so many starts in the lamp, and either
the filaments or the ballast electronics take a crap.
Left on all the time like they are in emergency stairwells, and that
same lamp will last for double or triple the rated hours, or more.
They usually fail when the filaments do - but if the filaments fail
while the lamp is lit it will stay lit until the power flickers and
the arc goes out. Or the ballast fails.
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I use toggle wall dimmers in certain rooms and it took much effort to educate the rest of the family as to the hazards of substituting fluorescents I had in stock for the burned out incandescent. Will they remember? I'm not about to spring for the even more expensive fluorescents that can handle variable power. |
can NOT be dimmed, just like regular permanently installed fluorescent
light fixtures. And the ones that can be dimmed are not cheap to set
up, they require special dimmers and special ballasts designed to work
together, and sometimes special lamps.
And every time you change the lamps in one of those special dimmed
fluorescent fixtures you have to burn in the new lamps for a week by
running them at full brightness before you try dimming them, or you
will have early lamp failures.
They have made Compact Fluorescent Lamps (the one piece curly bulbs)
in the past that were supposed to be dimable with standard consumer
grade incandescent dimmers, but all the ones I've seen have been
discontinued - they usually don't live long. And I've heard of a few
fires and melted lamps, don't even try.
For the most efficiency in an incandescent fixture, get the quartz
halogen capsule lamps like the Phillips Halogena - they are the best
compromise that can be easily dimmed.
And try not to run them dimmed way down for too long at a stretch,
the whole idea of the design is to keep the vaporized tungsten in
suspension in the halogen gases till you turn off the power, when it
redeposits on the filament.
If you run the lamps too cool by being severely dimmed most of the
time, the tungsten will deposit on the glass instead, and you get the
typical silvery inner coating on the lamp glass... Ramp them up to
full brightness for about a minute to get good and hot before you shut
them off.
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In article <WsadndUY34TtnrTbnZ2dnUVZ_j6dnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com>, "mark_digital©" <XXX-976 (AT) commacast (DOT) com> wrote: What do you think of this attempt in Congress to ban incandescent light bulbs? I think it's a shame those who are pushing for it haven't done their homework. Will we have to apply for an exemption 30-60 days before Christmas? Will we have to forego a light bulb in the microwave oven? I think we're being LED down the wrong path I tell ya. This is part of the global warming panic, set up by none other than algore and his cheap flick. Right ...that's the movie all right. The one you wouldn't see because |
Pompous ass.
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In article <_9aWh.7141$ya1.1995 (AT) news02 (DOT) roc.ny>, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: "dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message news:question*mark-B756BF.16160320042007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com... In article <WsadndUY34TtnrTbnZ2dnUVZ_j6dnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com>, "mark_digital©" <XXX-976 (AT) commacast (DOT) com> wrote: What do you think of this attempt in Congress to ban incandescent light bulbs? I think it's a shame those who are pushing for it haven't done their homework. Will we have to apply for an exemption 30-60 days before Christmas? Will we have to forego a light bulb in the microwave oven? I think we're being LED down the wrong path I tell ya. This is part of the global warming panic, set up by none other than algore and his cheap flick. Look for more cockamamie ideas being floated. Why hell, just this week I read they're proposing to put catalitic converters on lawnmowers. It will first start in California and the rest will follow. It is amazing how easy people are led. -- Can you think of at least one valid and proven reason to reduce emissions, assuming global warming was not an issue? Just one. It's easy. Why should I answer one of your questions when you refuse to answer mine. Take a hike. Face it, you don't have an answer, pompous ass. |
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In article <132la47m5acqm58 (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com>, "mack" <mackerel (AT) dslextreme (DOT) com> wrote: "dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message news:question*mark-B944EF.16443420042007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com... In article <_9aWh.7141$ya1.1995 (AT) news02 (DOT) roc.ny>, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: "dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message news:question*mark-B756BF.16160320042007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com... In article <WsadndUY34TtnrTbnZ2dnUVZ_j6dnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com>, "mark_digital©" <XXX-976 (AT) commacast (DOT) com> wrote: What do you think of this attempt in Congress to ban incandescent light bulbs? I think it's a shame those who are pushing for it haven't done their homework. Will we have to apply for an exemption 30-60 days before Christmas? Will we have to forego a light bulb in the microwave oven? I think we're being LED down the wrong path I tell ya. This is part of the global warming panic, set up by none other than algore and his cheap flick. Look for more cockamamie ideas being floated. Why hell, just this week I read they're proposing to put catalitic converters on lawnmowers. It will first start in California and the rest will follow. It is amazing how easy people are led. -- Can you think of at least one valid and proven reason to reduce emissions, assuming global warming was not an issue? Just one. It's easy. Why should I answer one of your questions when you refuse to answer mine. Take a hike. Face it, you don't have an answer, pompous ass. LOL mack you are a treasure. I hope you have a nice comfortable weekend. -- |
which I pointed out that you can't show anyone the questions you think I
don't answer. Nice job.
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"dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message news:question*mark-E64508.19184121042007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com... In article <132la47m5acqm58 (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com>, "mack" <mackerel (AT) dslextreme (DOT) com> wrote: "dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message news:question*mark-B944EF.16443420042007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com... In article <_9aWh.7141$ya1.1995 (AT) news02 (DOT) roc.ny>, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: "dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message news:question*mark-B756BF.16160320042007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com... In article <WsadndUY34TtnrTbnZ2dnUVZ_j6dnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com>, "mark_digital©" <XXX-976 (AT) commacast (DOT) com> wrote: What do you think of this attempt in Congress to ban incandescent light bulbs? I think it's a shame those who are pushing for it haven't done their homework. Will we have to apply for an exemption 30-60 days before Christmas? Will we have to forego a light bulb in the microwave oven? I think we're being LED down the wrong path I tell ya. This is part of the global warming panic, set up by none other than algore and his cheap flick. Look for more cockamamie ideas being floated. Why hell, just this week I read they're proposing to put catalitic converters on lawnmowers. It will first start in California and the rest will follow. It is amazing how easy people are led. -- Can you think of at least one valid and proven reason to reduce emissions, assuming global warming was not an issue? Just one. It's easy. Why should I answer one of your questions when you refuse to answer mine. Take a hike. Face it, you don't have an answer, pompous ass. LOL mack you are a treasure. I hope you have a nice comfortable weekend. -- So, you noticed his comment, but you're unable to answer MY message, in which I pointed out that you can't show anyone the questions you think I don't answer. Nice job. |
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Scott in Florida
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"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message news:bf719$462a27b4$47c2b532$16539 (AT) msgid (DOT) meganewsservers.com... "mark_digital©" <XXX-976 (AT) commacast (DOT) com> wrote in message news:AIudnckA65MjebTbnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com... snipped Don't use dimmers. They generate globs of RFI. Some brands are better than others but they are all dirty. -- Radio Frequency Interference? As far as I can tell, dimmers haven't been a problem. Light fixture/motion detector combo units (screw detector in first and then screw light bulb into detector) caused verifiable interference with my FAX/phone unit and another telecommunication piece of equipment. Like I said, dimmers haven't been a problem. As a matter of fact, every single GE and Phillips sunlight spectrum incandescent that's connected to the dimmers have lasted longer than any fluorescents. Dimmers extend longevity. I understand there's a finite limit of tungsten, so finding a good substitute ahead of time isn't unreasonable. What is unreasonable is for the government to get everyone excited about digital TV, and yet so far they use many more times the amount of electricity than a typical CRT. And for every watt that produces heat it takes two watts to cool. Some politicians may think they are showing and advocating, but it's from the heart and not the mind. Are you still with me or did I lose you after the first sentence? Bruce B is a lot more knowledgeable about this subject than I am, but I'lll give it a shot anyway. The motion detector probably causes interference because it is transmitting a signal that some other electronic devices pick up. My understanding is that dimmers extend the life of incandescent bulbs because they reduce the voltage to the bulbs, so they produce less heat and light, which extends the life of the filaments. Someone once suggested that using bulbs rated for 240 volts would last longer because they are effectively working at half of their rated voltage in household use. They also provide 1/4th the rated light output. Jeff -- Ray O (correct punctuation to reply) |
using a dimmer, that makes sense.
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Ray O
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