If Tookie is really sorry for what he did, why doesn't he disband the gang
he started?

He's not. The Crypts and the associated gangs here in Chicago, are still
killing as often as they can actually aim and hit . And of course, the
innocent bystanders that accidentally get in the way of bullets. . . .

Let him pay for his crime. Two words all the liberals forget: Personal
responsibility.

Charles

Charles @ Kankakee wrote:
You're dumb.

He's on Death Row. I doubt that from there he's going to be able to
disband a bunch of punks who happen to take the name of the gang he
didn't even start.

He's been locked away for over 20 years. Now look. I know he's black
and everything, but that doesn't mean he's responsible for all those
murders.

Yeah. Something you know absolutely nothing about.

"Learning Richard" <learningrichard (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

You're dumber.

If he's such a peacenick, why isn't he trying to fix the mess he started.

Yes, but if he actually tried to do something about it, he is one of the few
people that would have enough influence to actually get these punks
attention.
Yes, I do. It appears that you do not. Why would you say I don't know what
personal responsibility is?

Charles

Charles @ Kankakee wrote:
prove it.

I take it you haven't been following the news? All of the childrens'
books.... the joint initiatives with social groups worldwide to stamp
out gangs and drug abuse, the tons of support he has worldwide,
including folks such as Winnie Mandela, the wife of Nelson Mandela, who
took Apartheid down in South Africa (doh you prolly don't like him too
much).

Seems to me that there is very well substantiated evidence that he has
in fact reached out, in a very big way, to the disenfranchised and
misguided youth of this country.

More so than either you or I.

You're confusing hard times and hard luck with personal responsibility.
Ahh and before you protest... take a look at how far we've come in the
past 35 years in terms of racial equality.

Or, perhaps you don't think we've come that far? Because compared to
now, I think we were pretty flummoxed back then.

Think you can wrap your head 'round that one?

Learning Richard, 12/11/2005,4:51:48 PM, wrote:

Richard is really the one who is sorry.

Quit telling people you don't even know in an automotive forum to
"prove" this animal is guilty. He's already been proven over and over
again to be guilty. Even the most liberal appeals court in the country
won't overturn his conviction.

If he's done anything worthy since murdering those innocent people then
God will take note of that when they meet each other.

--
"The moral rot of political correctness runs deep today in both
national parties."
~ Patrick J. Buchanan

"Learning Richard" <learningrichard (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

He can't disband his own gang, but he can influence children to not join.
Yeah, right.





He's directoy responsible for at least four murders.



When you're not on Death Row, the odds of having to own up to personal
reaponsibility to the extent that Tookie has to are very remote.

"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

That's true. The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals upheld his conviction. The
only question today is if his book series atones for the wrongs he did ... I
say, no.

badgolferman wrote:
Why? Is this just another little bit of your 12 Step Character
Assassination? Man... the dissonance in your head must give you
headaches and premature baldness.

You should probably read the chapter on "Relapse and Recovery". Then
maybe you should try it. If it don't kill ya, maybe when you come back
you'll be ready to ... how do they say ... get honest with yourself.

By whom?

Where exactly does ones' opinion come from herein?

I'm quite sure that, thusly challenged, you will now find some actual
article or evidence to back this up -- because I think we both know
that statement is based on the half-truths and fear-based baloney
you've read in this group.

You must be in pretty good with God. How did you manage that? You
have proxy access to his Microsoft Outlook schedule book as well?

"Learning Richard" <learningrichard (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

At least two juries, and several appealate courts.



It's based on court records from the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. Tookie
was found guilty by a jury of his peers, and the conviction has been upheld
on appeal. Several appeals.

Learning Richard, 12/11/2005,10:29:20 PM, wrote:

The only chapter existing with a name like that must have been written
by you.

Are you daft? By prosecuters in the original trial and more
prosecuters in subsequent appeals.

From the fact that he has run out of appeals. Why can't you see past
your nose?

Almost all of which come directly from your posts.

I didn't know God and Bill Gates had a deal going. I was always told
Bill Gates made a deal with the Devil.

--
"Truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it."
~ Flannery O'Connor