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In article <yY42i.8567$ya1.8151 (AT) news02 (DOT) roc.ny>, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: "dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message news:question*mark-743BD1.16551414052007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com... In article <JH42i.8471$B25.8079 (AT) news01 (DOT) roc.ny>, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: "dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message news:question*mark-79AA78.16352314052007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com... In article <kj42i.8466$B25.5319 (AT) news01 (DOT) roc.ny>, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: "dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message news:question*mark-0E9063.16050414052007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com... In article 1179176121.373481.144780 (AT) u30g20...oglegroups.com>, larry moe 'n curly <larrymoencurly (AT) my-deja (DOT) com> wrote: Mike Hunter wrote: The President has a degrees from Yale and a higher GPA than Kerry, as well as an MBA from Harvard. So why does he sound that way when he speaks? I'm not referring to his accent. So why does he sound what way when he speaks?? -- Cut the bullshit. Do I need to give you examples, for the 1000th time? If your kids made the kinds of grammatical mistakes he does, you'd be bitching about the job your school was doing. Not visiting the teachers or doing anything to help the kids, but just bitching. Why does it bother you so much? -- For the same reason it would bother any normal adult who heard their kids speaking that way: Something's wrong. Very wrong. A young friend of mine taught a research methods course for college seniors. 10% of the students wrote their final paper using language that literally made some of the content unintelligible. They flunked the course. A couple didn't graduate because of this, and had to do remedial work over the summer in order to get their degrees. It was obvious that they'd somehow gotten past high school without being able to communicate. This is a crime. When the president exhibits the same behavior, it is a problem. There is no debating this fact. I believe you are exaggerating because he is 1. A Republican 2. He beat up on your favorite Gore/Kerry. No. I hold a president to standards equal to those expected for 10th grade kids. If he's not up to those same standards, something is wrong. I don't care what party he's from. Linguistic incompetence needs to other labels. BTW, I've heard Bush make some minor errors while speaking and I've heard him deliver a speech perfectly. I'm not someone who is that critical of someone else. He makes errors when he doesn't have a script. You can tell he doesn't have a script because there's no podium, and it's usually when he's talking to reporters and has no idea what questions will be asked. I know of no other president in my lifetime with this defect. Do you consider yourself perfect? Of course not. Yes you do. -- |
than you do for a president?
"Is our children learning?"
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In article <JH42i.8471$B25.8079 (AT) news01 (DOT) roc.ny>, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: "dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message news:question*mark-79AA78.16352314052007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com... In article <kj42i.8466$B25.5319 (AT) news01 (DOT) roc.ny>, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: "dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message news:question*mark-0E9063.16050414052007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com... In article <1179176121.373481.144780 (AT) u30g2000hsc (DOT) googlegroups.com>, larry moe 'n curly <larrymoencurly (AT) my-deja (DOT) com> wrote: Mike Hunter wrote: The President has a degrees from Yale and a higher GPA than Kerry, as well as an MBA from Harvard. So why does he sound that way when he speaks? I'm not referring to his accent. So why does he sound what way when he speaks?? -- Cut the bullshit. Do I need to give you examples, for the 1000th time? If your kids made the kinds of grammatical mistakes he does, you'd be bitching about the job your school was doing. Not visiting the teachers or doing anything to help the kids, but just bitching. Why does it bother you so much? -- For the same reason it would bother any normal adult who heard their kids speaking that way: Something's wrong. Very wrong. A young friend of mine taught a research methods course for college seniors. 10% of the students wrote their final paper using language that literally made some of the content unintelligible. They flunked the course. A couple didn't graduate because of this, and had to do remedial work over the summer in order to get their degrees. It was obvious that they'd somehow gotten past high school without being able to communicate. This is a crime. When the president exhibits the same behavior, it is a problem. There is no debating this fact. I believe you are exaggerating because he is 1. A Republican 2. He beat up on your favorite Gore/Kerry. Why don't you just get over it. BTW, I've heard Bush make some minor errors while speaking and I've heard him deliver a speech perfectly. I'm not someone who is that critical of someone else. Do you consider yourself perfect? |
the USA. He's in the spotlight, worldwide, representing our country. He
makes errors which go beyond minor, which change - or obliterate - the
meaning of the sentences in which they occur, errors which sound ludicrous,
and which are out & out embarrassing. Under his watch the education act has
been ratcheted up with NCLB, but he appears to be in need of being educated
re: some of those higher standards himself, esp. in the ELA dep't!
Cathy
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In article <mn52i.8475$B25.4138 (AT) news01 (DOT) roc.ny>, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: "dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message news:question*mark-CA432B.17260514052007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com... In article <yY42i.8567$ya1.8151 (AT) news02 (DOT) roc.ny>, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: "dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message news:question*mark-743BD1.16551414052007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com... In article <JH42i.8471$B25.8079 (AT) news01 (DOT) roc.ny>, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: "dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message news:question*mark-79AA78.16352314052007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com... In article <kj42i.8466$B25.5319 (AT) news01 (DOT) roc.ny>, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: "dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message news:question*mark-0E9063.16050414052007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com... In article 1179176121.373481.144780 (AT) u30g20...oglegroups.com>, larry moe 'n curly <larrymoencurly (AT) my-deja (DOT) com> wrote: Mike Hunter wrote: The President has a degrees from Yale and a higher GPA than Kerry, as well as an MBA from Harvard. So why does he sound that way when he speaks? I'm not referring to his accent. So why does he sound what way when he speaks?? -- Cut the bullshit. Do I need to give you examples, for the 1000th time? If your kids made the kinds of grammatical mistakes he does, you'd be bitching about the job your school was doing. Not visiting the teachers or doing anything to help the kids, but just bitching. Why does it bother you so much? -- For the same reason it would bother any normal adult who heard their kids speaking that way: Something's wrong. Very wrong. A young friend of mine taught a research methods course for college seniors. 10% of the students wrote their final paper using language that literally made some of the content unintelligible. They flunked the course. A couple didn't graduate because of this, and had to do remedial work over the summer in order to get their degrees. It was obvious that they'd somehow gotten past high school without being able to communicate. This is a crime. When the president exhibits the same behavior, it is a problem. There is no debating this fact. I believe you are exaggerating because he is 1. A Republican 2. He beat up on your favorite Gore/Kerry. No. I hold a president to standards equal to those expected for 10th grade kids. If he's not up to those same standards, something is wrong. I don't care what party he's from. Linguistic incompetence needs to other labels. BTW, I've heard Bush make some minor errors while speaking and I've heard him deliver a speech perfectly. I'm not someone who is that critical of someone else. He makes errors when he doesn't have a script. You can tell he doesn't have a script because there's no podium, and it's usually when he's talking to reporters and has no idea what questions will be asked. I know of no other president in my lifetime with this defect. Do you consider yourself perfect? Of course not. Yes you do. -- Back to the subject at hand: Do you have higher standards for school kids than you do for a president? "Is our children learning?" You need to attend anger management. Get over your obsession. You will be a better person. -- |
True or false: Do you hold school children to higher standards than the
president?
True, or false?
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Back to the subject at hand: Do you have higher standards for school kids than you do for a president? "Is our children learning?" You need to attend anger management. Get over your obsession. You will be a better person. -- True or false: Do you hold school children to higher standards than the president? True, or false? What's your next question or remark, then I may consider answering this one. -- |
In the previous sentence, the word "that's" means the question below, which
is the same one asked above:
True or false: Do you hold school children to higher standards than the
president?
True or false?
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In article <rsmdne1GNPeXeNXb4p2dnA (AT) giganews (DOT) com>, "Cathy F." <clfr (AT) adelphiadotdedot (DOT) net> wrote: "dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message news:question*mark-743BD1.16551414052007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com... In article <JH42i.8471$B25.8079 (AT) news01 (DOT) roc.ny>, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: "dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message news:question*mark-79AA78.16352314052007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com... In article <kj42i.8466$B25.5319 (AT) news01 (DOT) roc.ny>, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: "dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message news:question*mark-0E9063.16050414052007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com... In article 1179176121.373481.144780 (AT) u30g20...oglegroups.com>, larry moe 'n curly <larrymoencurly (AT) my-deja (DOT) com> wrote: Mike Hunter wrote: The President has a degrees from Yale and a higher GPA than Kerry, as well as an MBA from Harvard. So why does he sound that way when he speaks? I'm not referring to his accent. So why does he sound what way when he speaks?? -- Cut the bullshit. Do I need to give you examples, for the 1000th time? If your kids made the kinds of grammatical mistakes he does, you'd be bitching about the job your school was doing. Not visiting the teachers or doing anything to help the kids, but just bitching. Why does it bother you so much? -- For the same reason it would bother any normal adult who heard their kids speaking that way: Something's wrong. Very wrong. A young friend of mine taught a research methods course for college seniors. 10% of the students wrote their final paper using language that literally made some of the content unintelligible. They flunked the course. A couple didn't graduate because of this, and had to do remedial work over the summer in order to get their degrees. It was obvious that they'd somehow gotten past high school without being able to communicate. This is a crime. When the president exhibits the same behavior, it is a problem. There is no debating this fact. I believe you are exaggerating because he is 1. A Republican 2. He beat up on your favorite Gore/Kerry. Why don't you just get over it. BTW, I've heard Bush make some minor errors while speaking and I've heard him deliver a speech perfectly. I'm not someone who is that critical of someone else. Do you consider yourself perfect? Dbu, GWB isn't just any ol' guy off the streets, he is the *president* of the USA. He's in the spotlight, worldwide, representing our country. He makes errors which go beyond minor, which change - or obliterate - the meaning of the sentences in which they occur, errors which sound ludicrous, and which are out & out embarrassing. Under his watch the education act has been ratcheted up with NCLB, but he appears to be in need of being educated re: some of those higher standards himself, esp. in the ELA dep't! Cathy Yes he is the President and will continue to be the president for some time, thankfully. I've seen him make some flawless speeches. You only look for errors in his speaking, that's petty stuff. Kerry has made a few flubs as well as Gore. You don't like Bush, fine. He won't be running again. Instead you should focus on the people who may be the next president. Where do you see Bush making speeches? Evening news perhaps. I've watched entire speeches on C-SPAN, uninterruped and unedited. All of this talk about Bush and his public speaking is fixation. That's not mentally healthy for you. -- |
teleprompter. Those count for nothing, although he's screwed up even with
that crutch. But, when he's flying without that crutch, he's a disaster.
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In article <U562i.8483$B25.3707 (AT) news01 (DOT) roc.ny>, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: "dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message news:question*mark-51D626.18143614052007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com... Back to the subject at hand: Do you have higher standards for school kids than you do for a president? "Is our children learning?" You need to attend anger management. Get over your obsession. You will be a better person. -- True or false: Do you hold school children to higher standards than the president? True, or false? What's your next question or remark, then I may consider answering this one. -- Nope. That's my last question for the night. In the previous sentence, the word "that's" means the question below, which is the same one asked above: True or false: Do you hold school children to higher standards than the president? True or false? What is the standard? -- |
that the educational system was not up to par. Your standards, in other
words.
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In article <0762i.8484$B25.4051 (AT) news01 (DOT) roc.ny>, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: "dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message news:question*mark-7EC0F1.18122514052007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com... In article <rsmdne1GNPeXeNXb4p2dnA (AT) giganews (DOT) com>, "Cathy F." <clfr (AT) adelphiadotdedot (DOT) net> wrote: "dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message news:question*mark-743BD1.16551414052007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com... In article <JH42i.8471$B25.8079 (AT) news01 (DOT) roc.ny>, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: "dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message news:question*mark-79AA78.16352314052007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com... In article <kj42i.8466$B25.5319 (AT) news01 (DOT) roc.ny>, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: "dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message news:question*mark-0E9063.16050414052007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com... In article 1179176121.373481.144780 (AT) u30g20...oglegroups.com>, larry moe 'n curly <larrymoencurly (AT) my-deja (DOT) com> wrote: Mike Hunter wrote: The President has a degrees from Yale and a higher GPA than Kerry, as well as an MBA from Harvard. So why does he sound that way when he speaks? I'm not referring to his accent. So why does he sound what way when he speaks?? -- Cut the bullshit. Do I need to give you examples, for the 1000th time? If your kids made the kinds of grammatical mistakes he does, you'd be bitching about the job your school was doing. Not visiting the teachers or doing anything to help the kids, but just bitching. Why does it bother you so much? -- For the same reason it would bother any normal adult who heard their kids speaking that way: Something's wrong. Very wrong. A young friend of mine taught a research methods course for college seniors. 10% of the students wrote their final paper using language that literally made some of the content unintelligible. They flunked the course. A couple didn't graduate because of this, and had to do remedial work over the summer in order to get their degrees. It was obvious that they'd somehow gotten past high school without being able to communicate. This is a crime. When the president exhibits the same behavior, it is a problem. There is no debating this fact. I believe you are exaggerating because he is 1. A Republican 2. He beat up on your favorite Gore/Kerry. Why don't you just get over it. BTW, I've heard Bush make some minor errors while speaking and I've heard him deliver a speech perfectly. I'm not someone who is that critical of someone else. Do you consider yourself perfect? Dbu, GWB isn't just any ol' guy off the streets, he is the *president* of the USA. He's in the spotlight, worldwide, representing our country. He makes errors which go beyond minor, which change - or obliterate - the meaning of the sentences in which they occur, errors which sound ludicrous, and which are out & out embarrassing. Under his watch the education act has been ratcheted up with NCLB, but he appears to be in need of being educated re: some of those higher standards himself, esp. in the ELA dep't! Cathy Yes he is the President and will continue to be the president for some time, thankfully. I've seen him make some flawless speeches. You only look for errors in his speaking, that's petty stuff. Kerry has made a few flubs as well as Gore. You don't like Bush, fine. He won't be running again. Instead you should focus on the people who may be the next president. Where do you see Bush making speeches? Evening news perhaps. I've watched entire speeches on C-SPAN, uninterruped and unedited. All of this talk about Bush and his public speaking is fixation. That's not mentally healthy for you. -- You're pretending to forget one important thing: Speeches involve a teleprompter. Those count for nothing, although he's screwed up even with that crutch. But, when he's flying without that crutch, he's a disaster. There you go again with your assumptions. -- |
working with a written speech vs fielding questions from reporters? Or, the
fact that there **IS** a big difference?
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In article <rsmdne1GNPeXeNXb4p2dnA (AT) giganews (DOT) com>, "Cathy F." <clfr (AT) adelphiadotdedot (DOT) net> wrote: "dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message news:question*mark-743BD1.16551414052007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com... In article <JH42i.8471$B25.8079 (AT) news01 (DOT) roc.ny>, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: "dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message news:question*mark-79AA78.16352314052007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com... In article <kj42i.8466$B25.5319 (AT) news01 (DOT) roc.ny>, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: "dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message news:question*mark-0E9063.16050414052007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com... In article 1179176121.373481.144780 (AT) u30g20...oglegroups.com>, larry moe 'n curly <larrymoencurly (AT) my-deja (DOT) com> wrote: Mike Hunter wrote: The President has a degrees from Yale and a higher GPA than Kerry, as well as an MBA from Harvard. So why does he sound that way when he speaks? I'm not referring to his accent. So why does he sound what way when he speaks?? -- Cut the bullshit. Do I need to give you examples, for the 1000th time? If your kids made the kinds of grammatical mistakes he does, you'd be bitching about the job your school was doing. Not visiting the teachers or doing anything to help the kids, but just bitching. Why does it bother you so much? -- For the same reason it would bother any normal adult who heard their kids speaking that way: Something's wrong. Very wrong. A young friend of mine taught a research methods course for college seniors. 10% of the students wrote their final paper using language that literally made some of the content unintelligible. They flunked the course. A couple didn't graduate because of this, and had to do remedial work over the summer in order to get their degrees. It was obvious that they'd somehow gotten past high school without being able to communicate. This is a crime. When the president exhibits the same behavior, it is a problem. There is no debating this fact. I believe you are exaggerating because he is 1. A Republican 2. He beat up on your favorite Gore/Kerry. Why don't you just get over it. BTW, I've heard Bush make some minor errors while speaking and I've heard him deliver a speech perfectly. I'm not someone who is that critical of someone else. Do you consider yourself perfect? Dbu, GWB isn't just any ol' guy off the streets, he is the *president* of the USA. He's in the spotlight, worldwide, representing our country. He makes errors which go beyond minor, which change - or obliterate - the meaning of the sentences in which they occur, errors which sound ludicrous, and which are out & out embarrassing. Under his watch the education act has been ratcheted up with NCLB, but he appears to be in need of being educated re: some of those higher standards himself, esp. in the ELA dep't! Cathy Yes he is the President and will continue to be the president for some time, thankfully. I've seen him make some flawless speeches. You only look for errors in his speaking, that's petty stuff. |
they positively leap out all on their own!
Cathy
Kerry has made a few flubs as well as
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Gore. You don't like Bush, fine. He won't be running again. Instead you should focus on the people who may be the next president. Where do you see Bush making speeches? Evening news perhaps. I've watched entire speeches on C-SPAN, uninterruped and unedited. All of this talk about Bush and his public speaking is fixation. That's not mentally healthy for you. -- |
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In article <U562i.8483$B25.3707 (AT) news01 (DOT) roc.ny>, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: "dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message news:question*mark-51D626.18143614052007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com... Back to the subject at hand: Do you have higher standards for school kids than you do for a president? "Is our children learning?" You need to attend anger management. Get over your obsession. You will be a better person. -- True or false: Do you hold school children to higher standards than the president? True, or false? What's your next question or remark, then I may consider answering this one. -- Nope. That's my last question for the night. In the previous sentence, the word "that's" means the question below, which is the same one asked above: True or false: Do you hold school children to higher standards than the president? True or false? What is the standard? |
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In article <rp62i.8487$B25.1620 (AT) news01 (DOT) roc.ny>, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: "dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message news:question*mark-74AB44.18335614052007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com... In article <U562i.8483$B25.3707 (AT) news01 (DOT) roc.ny>, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: "dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message news:question*mark-51D626.18143614052007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com... Back to the subject at hand: Do you have higher standards for school kids than you do for a president? "Is our children learning?" You need to attend anger management. Get over your obsession. You will be a better person. -- True or false: Do you hold school children to higher standards than the president? True, or false? What's your next question or remark, then I may consider answering this one. -- Nope. That's my last question for the night. In the previous sentence, the word "that's" means the question below, which is the same one asked above: True or false: Do you hold school children to higher standards than the president? True or false? What is the standard? -- Whatever standard you had in mind when, in other discussions, you've agreed that the educational system was not up to par. Your standards, in other words. You've engaged someone else with that topic, not me. However now that you've brought it up, I agree, there is something wrong with the education system in America. We turn out far too many liberal arts, lawyers and politicians. It is a sad commentary when college grads turn to trade schools to get a marketable profession. You should strongly encourage your son to study engineering and not biology. We have enough of them (biologists) already and fall far short compared to the rest of the world for engineers. -- |
What about communications skills? You have no standards of your own? What if
your high school junior kid came home and said "The swim team members am
going at dinner togethers and we needs moneys."? What would you say to your
kid?
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