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Default Re: {OT} For King George "fans" - 05-14-2007 , 08:16 PM






"Cathy F." <clfr (AT) adelphiadotdedot (DOT) net> wrote

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"dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Back to the subject at hand: Do you have higher standards for
school
kids
than you do for a president?

"Is our children learning?"

You need to attend anger management.

Get over your obsession. You will be a better person.
--



True or false: Do you hold school children to higher standards than
the
president?

True, or false?

What's your next question or remark, then I may consider answering
this
one.
--


Nope. That's my last question for the night.

In the previous sentence, the word "that's" means the question below,
which
is the same one asked above:

True or false: Do you hold school children to higher standards than the
president?

True or false?

What is the standard?

Holy sh*t.

Cathy

He knows the standard. He's just ducking the issue because the torpedo's
heading toward him amidships and he can't move fast enough to dodge it.




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Default Re: {OT} For King George "fans" - 05-14-2007 , 08:18 PM






"dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
In article <w6CdnSXEztC4aNXb4p2dnA (AT) giganews (DOT) com>,
"Cathy F." <clfr (AT) adelphiadotdedot (DOT) net> wrote:

"dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message
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In article <rsmdne1GNPeXeNXb4p2dnA (AT) giganews (DOT) com>,
"Cathy F." <clfr (AT) adelphiadotdedot (DOT) net> wrote:

"dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:question*mark-743BD1.16551414052007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com...
In article <JH42i.8471$B25.8079 (AT) news01 (DOT) roc.ny>,
"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

"dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message
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In article <kj42i.8466$B25.5319 (AT) news01 (DOT) roc.ny>,
"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

"dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message
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In article
1179176121.373481.144780 (AT) u30g20...oglegroups.com>,
larry moe 'n curly <larrymoencurly (AT) my-deja (DOT) com> wrote:

Mike Hunter wrote:

The President has a degrees from Yale and a higher GPA than
Kerry,
as
well
as an MBA from Harvard.

So why does he sound that way when he speaks? I'm not
referring
to
his accent.

So why does he sound what way when he speaks??
--



Cut the bullshit. Do I need to give you examples, for the 1000th
time?
If
your kids made the kinds of grammatical mistakes he does, you'd
be
bitching
about the job your school was doing. Not visiting the teachers
or
doing
anything to help the kids, but just bitching.

Why does it bother you so much?
--


For the same reason it would bother any normal adult who heard
their
kids
speaking that way: Something's wrong. Very wrong.

A young friend of mine taught a research methods course for college
seniors.
10% of the students wrote their final paper using language that
literally
made some of the content unintelligible. They flunked the course. A
couple
didn't graduate because of this, and had to do remedial work over
the
summer
in order to get their degrees. It was obvious that they'd somehow
gotten
past high school without being able to communicate. This is a
crime.

When the president exhibits the same behavior, it is a problem.
There
is
no
debating this fact.

I believe you are exaggerating because he is 1. A Republican 2.
He
beat up on your favorite Gore/Kerry.

Why don't you just get over it.

BTW, I've heard Bush make some minor errors while speaking and I've
heard him deliver a speech perfectly. I'm not someone who is that
critical of someone else.

Do you consider yourself perfect?

Dbu, GWB isn't just any ol' guy off the streets, he is the *president*
of
the USA. He's in the spotlight, worldwide, representing our country.
He
makes errors which go beyond minor, which change - or obliterate - the
meaning of the sentences in which they occur, errors which sound
ludicrous,
and which are out & out embarrassing. Under his watch the education
act
has
been ratcheted up with NCLB, but he appears to be in need of being
educated
re: some of those higher standards himself, esp. in the ELA dep't!

Cathy

Yes he is the President and will continue to be the president for some
time, thankfully.

I've seen him make some flawless speeches. You only look for errors in
his speaking, that's petty stuff.

I don't *look* for them; they're so obvious - & often so ludicrous - that
they positively leap out all on their own!

Cathy

You are obsessed with GWB aren't you.

You are ducking the issue. If your kids were in high school and spoke the
way Bush does, you'd be asking serious questions of their English teachers,
unless you were a total idiot and didn't notice.

You'd be obsessed with your kids.




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Default Re: {OT} For King George "fans" - 05-14-2007 , 08:47 PM




"dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
In article <w6CdnSXEztC4aNXb4p2dnA (AT) giganews (DOT) com>,
"Cathy F." <clfr (AT) adelphiadotdedot (DOT) net> wrote:

"dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:question*mark-7EC0F1.18122514052007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com...
In article <rsmdne1GNPeXeNXb4p2dnA (AT) giganews (DOT) com>,
"Cathy F." <clfr (AT) adelphiadotdedot (DOT) net> wrote:

"dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:question*mark-743BD1.16551414052007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com...
In article <JH42i.8471$B25.8079 (AT) news01 (DOT) roc.ny>,
"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

"dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:question*mark-79AA78.16352314052007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com...
In article <kj42i.8466$B25.5319 (AT) news01 (DOT) roc.ny>,
"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

"dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:question*mark-0E9063.16050414052007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com...
In article
1179176121.373481.144780 (AT) u30g20...oglegroups.com>,
larry moe 'n curly <larrymoencurly (AT) my-deja (DOT) com> wrote:

Mike Hunter wrote:

The President has a degrees from Yale and a higher GPA than
Kerry,
as
well
as an MBA from Harvard.

So why does he sound that way when he speaks? I'm not
referring
to
his accent.

So why does he sound what way when he speaks??
--



Cut the bullshit. Do I need to give you examples, for the 1000th
time?
If
your kids made the kinds of grammatical mistakes he does, you'd
be
bitching
about the job your school was doing. Not visiting the teachers
or
doing
anything to help the kids, but just bitching.

Why does it bother you so much?
--


For the same reason it would bother any normal adult who heard
their
kids
speaking that way: Something's wrong. Very wrong.

A young friend of mine taught a research methods course for college
seniors.
10% of the students wrote their final paper using language that
literally
made some of the content unintelligible. They flunked the course. A
couple
didn't graduate because of this, and had to do remedial work over
the
summer
in order to get their degrees. It was obvious that they'd somehow
gotten
past high school without being able to communicate. This is a
crime.

When the president exhibits the same behavior, it is a problem.
There
is
no
debating this fact.

I believe you are exaggerating because he is 1. A Republican 2.
He
beat up on your favorite Gore/Kerry.

Why don't you just get over it.

BTW, I've heard Bush make some minor errors while speaking and I've
heard him deliver a speech perfectly. I'm not someone who is that
critical of someone else.

Do you consider yourself perfect?

Dbu, GWB isn't just any ol' guy off the streets, he is the *president*
of
the USA. He's in the spotlight, worldwide, representing our country.
He
makes errors which go beyond minor, which change - or obliterate - the
meaning of the sentences in which they occur, errors which sound
ludicrous,
and which are out & out embarrassing. Under his watch the education
act
has
been ratcheted up with NCLB, but he appears to be in need of being
educated
re: some of those higher standards himself, esp. in the ELA dep't!

Cathy

Yes he is the President and will continue to be the president for some
time, thankfully.

I've seen him make some flawless speeches. You only look for errors in
his speaking, that's petty stuff.

I don't *look* for them; they're so obvious - & often so ludicrous - that
they positively leap out all on their own!

Cathy

You are obsessed with GWB aren't you.
One needn't be obsessed to notice his language problems. One only needs ears
& a brain. Or eyes (if in print vs. audio) & a brain. A person'd have to
be *totally* out to lunch, or comatose, to not notice his language blunders.
(Nevermind the political blunders...) And his blunders create problems for
huge numbers of people.

Cathy

Quote:







Kerry has made a few flubs as well as
Gore. You don't like Bush, fine. He won't be running again. Instead
you should focus on the people who may be the next president.

Where do you see Bush making speeches? Evening news perhaps. I've
watched entire speeches on C-SPAN, uninterruped and unedited.

All of this talk about Bush and his public speaking is fixation.
That's
not mentally healthy for you.
--

--




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Default Re: {OT} For King George "fans" - 05-14-2007 , 08:50 PM




"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
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In article <rp62i.8487$B25.1620 (AT) news01 (DOT) roc.ny>,
"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

"dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message
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In article <U562i.8483$B25.3707 (AT) news01 (DOT) roc.ny>,
"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

"dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:question*mark-51D626.18143614052007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com...

Back to the subject at hand: Do you have higher standards for
school
kids
than you do for a president?

"Is our children learning?"

You need to attend anger management.

Get over your obsession. You will be a better person.
--



True or false: Do you hold school children to higher standards
than
the
president?

True, or false?

What's your next question or remark, then I may consider answering
this
one.
--


Nope. That's my last question for the night.

In the previous sentence, the word "that's" means the question below,
which
is the same one asked above:

True or false: Do you hold school children to higher standards than
the
president?

True or false?

What is the standard?
--


Whatever standard you had in mind when, in other discussions, you've
agreed
that the educational system was not up to par. Your standards, in other
words.

You've engaged someone else with that topic, not me. However now that
you've brought it up, I agree, there is something wrong with the
education system in America. We turn out far too many liberal arts,
lawyers and politicians. It is a sad commentary when college grads turn
to trade schools to get a marketable profession. You should strongly
encourage your son to study engineering and not biology. We have enough
of them (biologists) already and fall far short compared to the rest of
the world for engineers.
--



What about communications skills? You have no standards of your own? What
if your high school junior kid came home and said "The swim team members
am going at dinner togethers and we needs moneys."? What would you say to
your kid?
Hey, even GWB doesn't make *that* many mistakes in one sentence! Change it
to, "The swim team members is going to dinner together and we needs money,"
& it'd be believable. (For GWB, not a HS-er.)

Cathy


Quote:




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JoeSpareBedroom
 
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Default Re: {OT} For King George "fans" - 05-14-2007 , 08:51 PM



"Cathy F." <clfr (AT) adelphiadotdedot (DOT) net> wrote


Quote:
I've seen him make some flawless speeches. You only look for errors
in
his speaking, that's petty stuff.

I don't *look* for them; they're so obvious - & often so ludicrous -
that
they positively leap out all on their own!

Cathy

You are obsessed with GWB aren't you.

One needn't be obsessed to notice his language problems. One only needs
ears & a brain. Or eyes (if in print vs. audio) & a brain. A person'd
have to be *totally* out to lunch, or comatose, to not notice his language
blunders. (Nevermind the political blunders...) And his blunders create
problems for huge numbers of people.

Cathy

"Forms of government matter, in my opinion. It matters how-the nature of the
government in which people live."-Tipp City, Ohio, April 19, 2007

Fer cryin' out loud...people don't live IN a government.

"The question is, who ought to make that decision? The Congress or the
commanders? And as you know, my position is clear-I'm a commander
guy."-Washington, D.C., May 2, 2007

Commander guy? When my son was 4 and we'd pass road construction, he'd say
"I wanna be a builder guy". Kids say this. Not adults.

Cathy, I think if you called dbu and told him one of his kids might need
speech therapy, he'd say you were obsessing about his kids. Not doing your
job. Obsessing.




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JoeSpareBedroom
 
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Default Re: {OT} For King George "fans" - 05-14-2007 , 08:55 PM



"Cathy F." <clfr (AT) adelphiadotdedot (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
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"dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:question*mark-561043.19031514052007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com...
In article <rp62i.8487$B25.1620 (AT) news01 (DOT) roc.ny>,
"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

"dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:question*mark-74AB44.18335614052007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com...
In article <U562i.8483$B25.3707 (AT) news01 (DOT) roc.ny>,
"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

"dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:question*mark-51D626.18143614052007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com...

Back to the subject at hand: Do you have higher standards for
school
kids
than you do for a president?

"Is our children learning?"

You need to attend anger management.

Get over your obsession. You will be a better person.
--



True or false: Do you hold school children to higher standards
than
the
president?

True, or false?

What's your next question or remark, then I may consider answering
this
one.
--


Nope. That's my last question for the night.

In the previous sentence, the word "that's" means the question
below,
which
is the same one asked above:

True or false: Do you hold school children to higher standards than
the
president?

True or false?

What is the standard?
--


Whatever standard you had in mind when, in other discussions, you've
agreed
that the educational system was not up to par. Your standards, in other
words.

You've engaged someone else with that topic, not me. However now that
you've brought it up, I agree, there is something wrong with the
education system in America. We turn out far too many liberal arts,
lawyers and politicians. It is a sad commentary when college grads turn
to trade schools to get a marketable profession. You should strongly
encourage your son to study engineering and not biology. We have enough
of them (biologists) already and fall far short compared to the rest of
the world for engineers.
--



What about communications skills? You have no standards of your own? What
if your high school junior kid came home and said "The swim team members
am going at dinner togethers and we needs moneys."? What would you say to
your kid?

Hey, even GWB doesn't make *that* many mistakes in one sentence! Change
it to, "The swim team members is going to dinner together and we needs
money," & it'd be believable. (For GWB, not a HS-er.)

Cathy
OK, fine. I went to extremes in order to get dbu to act like my son's
English teacher, who is apparently ready to jack a couple of kids up on the
wall to get their attention. To paraphrase James Brown, she don't take no
mess.




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Default Re: {OT} For King George "fans" - 05-14-2007 , 09:03 PM



"dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote


Quote:
You are obsessed with GWB aren't you.

One needn't be obsessed to notice his language problems. One only needs
ears
& a brain. Or eyes (if in print vs. audio) & a brain. A person'd have
to
be *totally* out to lunch, or comatose, to not notice his language
blunders.
(Nevermind the political blunders...) And his blunders create problems
for
huge numbers of people.

Cathy

I'll bet you've "blundered" a few times in your life. Or are you
perfect too.

No president has blundered as often and as badly as Bush. For instance,
someone in this newsgroup once tried to explain this away:

"Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB/GYN's
aren't able to practice their love with women all across the country."-Sept.
6, 2004, Poplar Bluff, Mo.

It cannot be explained as a simple blunder. It's a serious defect in his
thinking process. Totally tactless and ignorant.




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Default Re: {OT} For King George "fans" - 05-14-2007 , 09:11 PM



"dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
In article <NF72i.8585$ya1.8087 (AT) news02 (DOT) roc.ny>,
"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

"dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:question*mark-3C83CC.20004914052007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com...

You are obsessed with GWB aren't you.

One needn't be obsessed to notice his language problems. One only
needs
ears
& a brain. Or eyes (if in print vs. audio) & a brain. A person'd
have
to
be *totally* out to lunch, or comatose, to not notice his language
blunders.
(Nevermind the political blunders...) And his blunders create
problems
for
huge numbers of people.

Cathy

I'll bet you've "blundered" a few times in your life. Or are you
perfect too.


No president has blundered as often and as badly as Bush. For instance,
someone in this newsgroup once tried to explain this away:

"Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB/GYN's
aren't able to practice their love with women all across the
country."-Sept.
6, 2004, Poplar Bluff, Mo.

It cannot be explained as a simple blunder. It's a serious defect in his
thinking process. Totally tactless and ignorant.

You two should get a room. You need a mate badly, I can tell. She might
be a tad old for you though, LOL
--

If one of your kids wrote that exact same sentence ("Too many good docs") in
a school assignment, what would you have said about it?




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larry moe 'n curly
 
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Default Re: {OT} For King George "fans" - 05-14-2007 , 09:22 PM




dbu., wrote:

Quote:
In article <1179176121.373481.144780 (AT) u30g2000hsc (DOT) googlegroups.com>,
larry moe 'n curly <larrymoencurly (AT) my-deja (DOT) com> wrote:

Mike Hunter wrote:

The President has a degrees from Yale and a higher GPA than Kerry, as well
as an MBA from Harvard.

So why does he sound that way when he speaks? I'm not referring to
his accent.

So why does he sound what way when he speaks??
Pitiful. You can't even come up with your own answer-dodging
questions.



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Default Re: {OT} For King George "fans" - 05-14-2007 , 09:30 PM




dbu., wrote:

Quote:
In article <kj42i.8466$B25.5319 (AT) news01 (DOT) roc.ny>,
"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

In article <1179176121.373481.144780 (AT) u30g2000hsc (DOT) googlegroups.com>,
larry moe 'n curly <larrymoencurly (AT) my-deja (DOT) com> wrote:

Mike Hunter wrote:

The President has a degrees from Yale and a higher GPA than Kerry, as
well as an MBA from Harvard.

So why does he sound that way when he speaks? I'm not referring to
his accent.

So why does he sound what way when he speaks??

Cut the bullshit. Do I need to give you examples, for the 1000th time? If
your kids made the kinds of grammatical mistakes he does, you'd be bitching
about the job your school was doing. Not visiting the teachers or doing
anything to help the kids, but just bitching.

Why does it bother you so much?
Why doesn't it bother you when a spoiled, stupid rich kid gets into
Yale or Harvard only because he has connections, thereby bumping a
clean-cut hard-working poor or middle class kid who's more qualified
and could probably contribute a lot more to both the university and to
society?



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