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2001-2004 model year fatalities
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2001-2004 model year fatalities -
05-16-2007
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| http://autos.msn.com/advice/CRArt.as...topart=pickups The URL says "pickups" but it's all types of vehicles. I'm surprised Toyotas weren't on the "highest rates of driver death" list, since they tend to be rather small. Natalie -- |
exist to protect their own interests. In this case, they are reporting real
world results instead of tests that they have engineered, so the information
should be unbiased.
Some things that were not noted in the article:
- Of the 15 vehicles that had fewer than 20 deaths per million registered
vehicle years,
6 are Toyota/Lexus;
2 are Hondas
2 are BMWs
1 Infiniti
1 GM (Chevrolet)
1 Audi
2 Mercedes
Volvo touts their safety, however none made the list. I am surprised that
the Cadillac DTS, Lincoln Town Car, Mercury Grand Marquis, Ford Crown
Victoria, Mercedes S Class, and Lexus LS were not on the list.
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Ray O
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"Wickeddoll" <wickeddoll1958DieSpammersDie (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:f2f1cl.3hs.1 (AT) news (DOT) evilcabal.org... http://autos.msn.com/advice/CRArt.as...topart=pickups The URL says "pickups" but it's all types of vehicles. I'm surprised Toyotas weren't on the "highest rates of driver death" list, since they tend to be rather small. Natalie -- I tend to be a little suspicious of information from the IIHS since they exist to protect their own interests. In this case, they are reporting real world results instead of tests that they have engineered, so the information should be unbiased. Some things that were not noted in the article: - Of the 15 vehicles that had fewer than 20 deaths per million registered vehicle years, 6 are Toyota/Lexus; 2 are Hondas 2 are BMWs 1 Infiniti 1 GM (Chevrolet) 1 Audi 2 Mercedes Volvo touts their safety, however none made the list. I am surprised that the Cadillac DTS, Lincoln Town Car, Mercury Grand Marquis, Ford Crown Victoria, Mercedes S Class, and Lexus LS were not on the list. |
themselves. People drive them. More often than not, that is the weak link.
The stats are a reflection of both the safety of the vehicles and the
limitations of the drivers.
Jeff
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Ray O wrote: "Wickeddoll" <wickeddoll1958DieSpammersDie (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:f2f1cl.3hs.1 (AT) news (DOT) evilcabal.org... http://autos.msn.com/advice/CRArt.as...topart=pickups The URL says "pickups" but it's all types of vehicles. I'm surprised Toyotas weren't on the "highest rates of driver death" list, since they tend to be rather small. Natalie -- I tend to be a little suspicious of information from the IIHS since they exist to protect their own interests. In this case, they are reporting real world results instead of tests that they have engineered, so the information should be unbiased. Some things that were not noted in the article: - Of the 15 vehicles that had fewer than 20 deaths per million registered vehicle years, 6 are Toyota/Lexus; 2 are Hondas 2 are BMWs 1 Infiniti 1 GM (Chevrolet) 1 Audi 2 Mercedes Volvo touts their safety, however none made the list. I am surprised that the Cadillac DTS, Lincoln Town Car, Mercury Grand Marquis, Ford Crown Victoria, Mercedes S Class, and Lexus LS were not on the list. One of the things that is missing is that the cars don't drive themselves. People drive them. More often than not, that is the weak link. The stats are a reflection of both the safety of the vehicles and the limitations of the drivers. Jeff |
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"Robert Watson" : "Wickeddoll" .. http://autos.msn.com/advice/CRArt.as...topart=pickups The URL says "pickups" but it's all types of vehicles. I'm surprised Toyotas weren't on the "highest rates of driver death" list, since they tend to be rather small. Natalie -- I tend to be a little suspicious of information from the IIHS since they exist to protect their own interests. In this case, they are reporting real world results instead of tests that they have engineered, so the information should be unbiased. Some things that were not noted in the article: - Of the 15 vehicles that had fewer than 20 deaths per million registered vehicle years, 6 are Toyota/Lexus; 2 are Hondas 2 are BMWs 1 Infiniti 1 GM (Chevrolet) 1 Audi 2 Mercedes Volvo touts their safety, however none made the list. I am surprised that the Cadillac DTS, Lincoln Town Car, Mercury Grand Marquis, Ford Crown Victoria, Mercedes S Class, and Lexus LS were not on the list. One of the things that is missing is that the cars don't drive themselves. People drive them. More often than not, that is the weak link. The stats are a reflection of both the safety of the vehicles and the limitations of the drivers. Jeff Yup, something the article stressed several times. -- Ray O |
All surveys are quite subjective, but I found this one interesting for the
lack of small Toyotas on the list. Thought Echoes would be at least in the
middle (though mine's a 2000)
Natalie
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"Ray O" ... "Robert Watson" : "Wickeddoll" .. http://autos.msn.com/advice/CRArt.as...topart=pickups The URL says "pickups" but it's all types of vehicles. I'm surprised Toyotas weren't on the "highest rates of driver death" list, since they tend to be rather small. Natalie -- I tend to be a little suspicious of information from the IIHS since they exist to protect their own interests. In this case, they are reporting real world results instead of tests that they have engineered, so the information should be unbiased. Some things that were not noted in the article: - Of the 15 vehicles that had fewer than 20 deaths per million registered vehicle years, 6 are Toyota/Lexus; 2 are Hondas 2 are BMWs 1 Infiniti 1 GM (Chevrolet) 1 Audi 2 Mercedes Volvo touts their safety, however none made the list. I am surprised that the Cadillac DTS, Lincoln Town Car, Mercury Grand Marquis, Ford Crown Victoria, Mercedes S Class, and Lexus LS were not on the list. One of the things that is missing is that the cars don't drive themselves. People drive them. More often than not, that is the weak link. The stats are a reflection of both the safety of the vehicles and the limitations of the drivers. Jeff Yup, something the article stressed several times. -- Ray O *shrug* All surveys are quite subjective, but I found this one interesting for the lack of small Toyotas on the list. Thought Echoes would be at least in the middle (though mine's a 2000) Natalie |
lots of passenger compartment padding, or Echo drivers are very safe
drivers, or Echos don't have enough power to get up to lethal speeds ;-)
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"Wickeddoll" "Robert Watson" : http://autos.msn.com/advice/CRArt.as...topart=pickups The URL says "pickups" but it's all types of vehicles. I'm surprised Toyotas weren't on the "highest rates of driver death" list, since they tend to be rather small. Natalie -- I tend to be a little suspicious of information from the IIHS since they exist to protect their own interests. In this case, they are reporting real world results instead of tests that they have engineered, so the information should be unbiased. Some things that were not noted in the article: - Of the 15 vehicles that had fewer than 20 deaths per million registered vehicle years, 6 are Toyota/Lexus; 2 are Hondas 2 are BMWs 1 Infiniti 1 GM (Chevrolet) 1 Audi 2 Mercedes Volvo touts their safety, however none made the list. I am surprised that the Cadillac DTS, Lincoln Town Car, Mercury Grand Marquis, Ford Crown Victoria, Mercedes S Class, and Lexus LS were not on the list. One of the things that is missing is that the cars don't drive themselves. People drive them. More often than not, that is the weak link. The stats are a reflection of both the safety of the vehicles and the limitations of the drivers. Jeff Yup, something the article stressed several times. -- Ray O *shrug* All surveys are quite subjective, but I found this one interesting for the lack of small Toyotas on the list. Thought Echoes would be at least in the middle (though mine's a 2000) Natalie It could be that the crumple zones in Echos are very cleverly designed with lots of passenger compartment padding, or Echo drivers are very safe drivers, or Echos don't have enough power to get up to lethal speeds ;-) -- Ray O |
*fwap*
My car has considerable testicular fortitude!
Natalie
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snipped *shrug* All surveys are quite subjective, but I found this one interesting for the lack of small Toyotas on the list. Thought Echoes would be at least in the middle (though mine's a 2000) Natalie It could be that the crumple zones in Echos are very cleverly designed with lots of passenger compartment padding, or Echo drivers are very safe drivers, or Echos don't have enough power to get up to lethal speeds ;-) -- Ray O On that last bit.... *fwap* My car has considerable testicular fortitude! Natalie LOL! Or perhaps the Echo is so ugly that other cars keep away from it! <g |
Ray O
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"Wickeddoll" ... snipped *shrug* All surveys are quite subjective, but I found this one interesting for the lack of small Toyotas on the list. Thought Echoes would be at least in the middle (though mine's a 2000) Natalie It could be that the crumple zones in Echos are very cleverly designed with lots of passenger compartment padding, or Echo drivers are very safe drivers, or Echos don't have enough power to get up to lethal speeds ;-) -- Ray O On that last bit.... *fwap* My car has considerable testicular fortitude! Natalie LOL! Or perhaps the Echo is so ugly that other cars keep away from it! g -- Ray O |
There are plenty of much uglier cars than Echoes out there! My little car
is cute, anyway, you philistine.
Natalie
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snipped LOL! Or perhaps the Echo is so ugly that other cars keep away from it! g -- Ray O HEY! There are plenty of much uglier cars than Echoes out there! My little car is cute, anyway, you philistine. Natalie I'll agree, the Echo is not the ugliest ride on the road! ;-) |
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