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Default {OT} - Pardon for Libby - vote.com query - 03-08-2007 , 12:29 PM






I was just sent a vote.com query about Bush pardoning Libby.

I assume that would be the proper and honorable thing to do. The previous
administration showed its acceptablity and even how to funnel the money
properly. Since Libby has 3 million thought, he probably ought to get
proper advice from Bill, for the proper fee of course!

Ron in Ca



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Default Re: {OT} - Pardon for Libby - vote.com query - 03-08-2007 , 01:04 PM






"Ron" <nobodyhere (AT) nowhere (DOT) org> wrote

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I was just sent a vote.com query about Bush pardoning Libby.

I assume that would be the proper and honorable thing to do. The previous
administration showed its acceptablity and even how to funnel the money
properly. Since Libby has 3 million thought, he probably ought to get
proper advice from Bill, for the proper fee of course!

Ron in Ca

Libby was one of the attorneys who helped Marc Rich arrange for his pardon
by Clinton. It's a happy little club. They all know how to make these things
work.




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Default Re: {OT} - Pardon for Libby - vote.com query - 03-08-2007 , 01:42 PM



Didn't know that about Libby. But it does seem that there are actually just
a fairly small number of those "in the loop" in Washington. They, including
Bush, Kerry etc. all belong to same clubs, hire same advisors etc. When a
Repub or Dem gets voted (or kicked) out office, their staff immediately
migrages and is loyal to where ever there is a vacancy regardless of party.
Sen/Rep goes to work for a lobbyist he was villifying on Fox or CNN
yesterday....... Must be the air or water!

Ron in Ca



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Default Re: {OT} - Pardon for Libby - vote.com query - 03-08-2007 , 04:20 PM



On Mar 8, 1:42 pm, "Ron" <nobodyh... (AT) nowhere (DOT) org> wrote:
Quote:
Didn't know that about Libby. But it does seem that there are actually just
a fairly small number of those "in the loop" in Washington. They, including
Bush, Kerry etc. all belong to same clubs, hire same advisors etc. When a
Repub or Dem gets voted (or kicked) out office, their staff immediately
migrages and is loyal to where ever there is a vacancy regardless of party.
Sen/Rep goes to work for a lobbyist he was villifying on Fox or CNN
yesterday....... Must be the air or water!

Ron in Ca
You are aware that the person to be pardoned is guilty of a crime and
must be remorsefully?

What Libby did is no different than what organized crime figures do -
a person keeps thier mouth shut and takes the fall. The crime family
takes care of their family, protects them in jail, and give them back
their job when they get out.

As a former registered republican that still believes "we are a nation
of laws and not men", I must say republicans today are not interested
in laws, just ideology.

Libby was found guilty of his crimes by a jury of his peers. To ask
for a pardon is jury nulification but I doubt you agreed with the OJ
verdict, which was also jury nulification.

Get a grip. Reassess what you are doing, how you are being used by
republican people in power.

A



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Default Re: {OT} - Pardon for Libby - vote.com query - 03-08-2007 , 06:10 PM



On Mar 8, 4:29 pm, "dbu," <question-m... (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
In article <1173388840.296102.74... (AT) 8g2000cwh (DOT) googlegroups.com>,





"AnneCoultersAdamsApple" <annecoultersadamsap... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
On Mar 8, 1:42 pm, "Ron" <nobodyh... (AT) nowhere (DOT) org> wrote:
Didn't know that about Libby. But it does seem that there are actually just
a fairly small number of those "in the loop" in Washington. They, including
Bush, Kerry etc. all belong to same clubs, hire same advisors etc. When a
Repub or Dem gets voted (or kicked) out office, their staff immediately
migrages and is loyal to where ever there is a vacancy regardless of party.
Sen/Rep goes to work for a lobbyist he was villifying on Fox or CNN
yesterday....... Must be the air or water!

Ron in Ca

You are aware that the person to be pardoned is guilty of a crime and
must be remorsefully?

What Libby did is no different than what organized crime figures do -
a person keeps thier mouth shut and takes the fall. The crime family
takes care of their family, protects them in jail, and give them back
their job when they get out.

As a former registered republican that still believes "we are a nation
of laws and not men", I must say republicans today are not interested
in laws, just ideology.

Libby was found guilty of his crimes by a jury of his peers. To ask
for a pardon is jury nulification but I doubt you agreed with the OJ
verdict, which was also jury nulification.

Get a grip. Reassess what you are doing, how you are being used by
republican people in power.

A

klinton not only lied, but he lied under oath, perjury, a
felony......jail time for klinton, but he wiggled out of it.
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Your obsession with Clinton is blinding you to this administration's
complete disregard for the constitution.

Clinton took the impeachment like a man. No whining, no complaining,
no one on the left calling for a pardon. I bet Clinton would not
accept a pardon.

What do you think is going on with the firing of the federal
prosecutors? One of Karl Rove's assistants was put into the New
Mexico prosecutor position after Cummings was fired. Another was told
he was appointed to a federal prosecutor job to get resume experience
so he could be appointed a judge. Before you give me a flip answer
consider the "consequences" when a dreaded Democratic president has
the same powers.

A



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Ron
 
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Default Re: {OT} - Pardon for Libby - vote.com query - 03-08-2007 , 08:01 PM



I thought I had my tongue in my cheek initially (well sort of).

As far as I know Libby didn't ask for a pardon, its wildass speculation.

I was showing the similarities in the pardons by Clinton and the speculation
on Bush giving one to Libby for the money apparently involved. We all know
there is never in quid pro quo for a pardon, its illegal.

Ron in Ca



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AnneCoultersAdamsApple
 
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Default Re: {OT} - Pardon for Libby - vote.com query - 03-08-2007 , 09:16 PM



On Mar 8, 6:29 pm, dbu <question-m... (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
In article <1173395434.633437.272... (AT) 30g2000cwc (DOT) googlegroups.com>,





"AnneCoultersAdamsApple" <annecoultersadamsap... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
On Mar 8, 4:29 pm, "dbu," <question-m... (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote:
In article <1173388840.296102.74... (AT) 8g2000cwh (DOT) googlegroups.com>,

"AnneCoultersAdamsApple" <annecoultersadamsap... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
On Mar 8, 1:42 pm, "Ron" <nobodyh... (AT) nowhere (DOT) org> wrote:
Didn't know that about Libby. But it does seem that there are actually
just
a fairly small number of those "in the loop" in Washington. They,
including
Bush, Kerry etc. all belong to same clubs, hire same advisors etc.
When a
Repub or Dem gets voted (or kicked) out office, their staff immediately
migrages and is loyal to where ever there is a vacancy regardless of
party.
Sen/Rep goes to work for a lobbyist he was villifying on Fox or CNN
yesterday....... Must be the air or water!

Ron in Ca

You are aware that the person to be pardoned is guilty of a crime and
must be remorsefully?

What Libby did is no different than what organized crime figures do -
a person keeps thier mouth shut and takes the fall. The crime family
takes care of their family, protects them in jail, and give them back
their job when they get out.

As a former registered republican that still believes "we are a nation
of laws and not men", I must say republicans today are not interested
in laws, just ideology.

Libby was found guilty of his crimes by a jury of his peers. To ask
for a pardon is jury nulification but I doubt you agreed with the OJ
verdict, which was also jury nulification.

Get a grip. Reassess what you are doing, how you are being used by
republican people in power.

A

klinton not only lied, but he lied under oath, perjury, a
felony......jail time for klinton, but he wiggled out of it.
--- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Your obsession with Clinton is blinding you to this administration's
complete disregard for the constitution.

Clinton took the impeachment like a man. No whining, no complaining,
no one on the left calling for a pardon. I bet Clinton would not
accept a pardon.

What do you think is going on with the firing of the federal
prosecutors? One of Karl Rove's assistants was put into the New
Mexico prosecutor position after Cummings was fired. Another was told
he was appointed to a federal prosecutor job to get resume experience
so he could be appointed a judge. Before you give me a flip answer
consider the "consequences" when a dreaded Democratic president has
the same powers.

A

What's your carbon footprint and are you going to purchase offsets?
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- Show quoted text -
See? Avoiding the question... Too bad. When people dialog both
learn something.

I'm buying a Honda Fit.

A



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Default Re: {OT} - Pardon for Libby - vote.com query - 03-08-2007 , 10:41 PM




dbu, wrote:

Quote:
klinton not only lied, but he lied under oath, perjury, a
felony......jail time for klinton, but he wiggled out of it.
If Clinton deserved jail, then GW Bush and Cheney deserve to be
tortured at Abu Graib and hanged because they're infinitely worse
offenders than Mr. Blow Job ever was.



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DH
 
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Default Re: {OT} - Pardon for Libby - vote.com query - 03-09-2007 , 12:18 PM



"dbu" <question-mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
In article <1173406571.494939.205550 (AT) q40g2000cwq (DOT) googlegroups.com>,
"AnneCoultersAdamsApple" <annecoultersadamsapple (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
On Mar 8, 6:29 pm, dbu <question-m... (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote:
In article <1173395434.633437.272... (AT) 30g2000cwc (DOT) googlegroups.com>,
"AnneCoultersAdamsApple" <annecoultersadamsap... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
On Mar 8, 4:29 pm, "dbu," <question-m... (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote:
In article <1173388840.296102.74... (AT) 8g2000cwh (DOT) googlegroups.com>,
"AnneCoultersAdamsApple" <annecoultersadamsap... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
On Mar 8, 1:42 pm, "Ron" <nobodyh... (AT) nowhere (DOT) org> wrote:
Didn't know that about Libby. But it does seem that there are
actually
just
a fairly small number of those "in the loop" in Washington.
They,
including
Bush, Kerry etc. all belong to same clubs, hire same advisors
etc.
When a
Repub or Dem gets voted (or kicked) out office, their staff
immediately
migrages and is loyal to where ever there is a vacancy
regardless
of
party.
Sen/Rep goes to work for a lobbyist he was villifying on Fox or
CNN
yesterday....... Must be the air or water!

Ron in Ca

You are aware that the person to be pardoned is guilty of a crime
and
must be remorsefully?

What Libby did is no different than what organized crime figures
do -
a person keeps thier mouth shut and takes the fall. The crime
family
takes care of their family, protects them in jail, and give them
back
their job when they get out.

As a former registered republican that still believes "we are a
nation
of laws and not men", I must say republicans today are not
interested
in laws, just ideology.

Libby was found guilty of his crimes by a jury of his peers. To
ask
for a pardon is jury nulification but I doubt you agreed with the
OJ
verdict, which was also jury nulification.

Get a grip. Reassess what you are doing, how you are being used
by
republican people in power.

A

klinton not only lied, but he lied under oath, perjury, a
felony......jail time for klinton, but he wiggled out of it.
--- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Your obsession with Clinton is blinding you to this administration's
complete disregard for the constitution.

Clinton took the impeachment like a man. No whining, no complaining,
no one on the left calling for a pardon. I bet Clinton would not
accept a pardon.

What do you think is going on with the firing of the federal
prosecutors? One of Karl Rove's assistants was put into the New
Mexico prosecutor position after Cummings was fired. Another was
told
he was appointed to a federal prosecutor job to get resume experience
so he could be appointed a judge. Before you give me a flip answer
consider the "consequences" when a dreaded Democratic president has
the same powers.

A

What's your carbon footprint and are you going to purchase offsets?
--- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

See? Avoiding the question... Too bad. When people dialog both
learn something.

I'm buying a Honda Fit.

A

You didn't get it did ya, LOL.
ACAA gets it. You don't. Clinton lied about a BJ. Who cares? It wasn't a
proper subject for investigation and questions about the President's sex
life shouldn't have been put to him under oath, anyway. As regards a
President's sex life, he has only the First Lady (or the First Husband,
after Hillary wins) to answer to.

The Bush team appears to be illegally using the identity of CIA operatives
to foster political advantage. That's illegal, a subversion of
Constitutional processes and is a subject appropriate for investigation and
questions about it should be put to people under oath.

And, of course, the larger picture is that this Administration is so
habitually and brazenly deceitful and so thoroughly and hopelessly
incompetent that one of them got convicted for lying when there was no
reason to lie.



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Default Re: {OT} - Pardon for Libby - vote.com query - 03-09-2007 , 12:31 PM



On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 11:18:14 -0600, "DH" <dh (AT) stargate (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
Clinton lied about a BJ. Who cares? It wasn't a
proper subject for investigation and questions about the President's sex
life shouldn't have been put to him under oath, anyway.

What would happen if the head of a major corporation got a blow job
from an intern?

What would happen to him if he lied to a grand jury about it?

What happened to Clintoon?

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