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Show me data indicating that tort reform is a more important factor in the cost of health care, compared with other major costs. I can't find anything which uses real numbers to back up that idea. All I can find is anecdotes and other bullshit, including proclamations from a convicted felon who lives with his mother. |
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Which party will give up the seniority system of committee memberships and chairs without the other doing the same. It would actually be stupid for any group of voters to enforce term limits at the ballot box. Then Senators and Congressmen from small states would control the whole country. |
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On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:50:21 -0400, "JoeSpareBedroom" newstrash (AT) frontiernet (DOT) net> wrote: Show me data indicating that tort reform is a more important factor in the cost of health care, compared with other major costs. I can't find anything which uses real numbers to back up that idea. All I can find is anecdotes and other bullshit, including proclamations from a convicted felon who lives with his mother. The first place to look is the cost of insurance doctors pay.... -- Scott in Florida |
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"Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:h6p3t2$fp1$1 (AT) news (DOT) eternal-september.org... "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash (AT) frontiernet (DOT) net> wrote in message news:JnSjm.179413$vp.52424 (AT) newsfe12 (DOT) iad... "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:h6njjs$m6k$1 (AT) news (DOT) eternal-september.org... "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash (AT) frontiernet (DOT) net> wrote in message news:c9Ijm.112963$rg4.69690 (AT) newsfe02 (DOT) iad... Show me data indicating that tort reform is a more important factor in the cost of health care, compared with other major costs. I can't find anything which uses real numbers to back up that idea. All I can find is anecdotes and other bullshit, including proclamations from a convicted felon who lives with his mother. What are you, a lobbyist for the lawyer association? There has been a need for tort reform for as long as I can remember. The problem is that lawsuits rasie the cost of malpractice insurance, and without tort reform there can be no reduction in malpractice insurance costs, and those costs simply flow through to the examination room, rasising the cost of medicine. It only takes one unreasonable lawsuit to raise the cost of malpractice insurance. The new MRI machine is expensive but it gives doctors needed information that can save your life. Malpractice insurance is also expensive, but it does not give the doctors information that can save your life. One MRI can be used by 100 doctors, but each of those doctors needs malpractice insurance. So, the cost of the MRI is spread far and wide, the cost of malpractice id borne by all and passed on to you and I. You are an idiot if you think that health care problems can be resolved without a reduction in malpractice, which requires a change to the tort laws. Well, you're an idiot anyhow, but that's another story. Was it you who tried this last week or the week before? No, it was not me. The word "expensive" is meaningless No, it is not meaningless. It is relative, but not meaningless. unless you can come up with real numbers for the cost of malpractice insurance, along with real numbers for OTHER major costs which affect health care. Example: It costs $7000 to $9000 ***PER DAY*** to keep a corpse alive because he or she left absolutely no end of life instructions for their doctor and family. That is waste if the patient has zero hope of recovery. That is an example of costly service, not an example of malpractice. Indeed, the person is kept alive to AVERT malpractice. You've just made my point. Thank you. I never said it was an example of malpractice. You imagined that. |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash (AT) frontiernet (DOT) net> wrote in message news:L1Vjm.145776$Qg6.14926 (AT) newsfe14 (DOT) iad... "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:h6p3t2$fp1$1 (AT) news (DOT) eternal-september.org... "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash (AT) frontiernet (DOT) net> wrote in message news:JnSjm.179413$vp.52424 (AT) newsfe12 (DOT) iad... "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:h6njjs$m6k$1 (AT) news (DOT) eternal-september.org... "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash (AT) frontiernet (DOT) net> wrote in message news:c9Ijm.112963$rg4.69690 (AT) newsfe02 (DOT) iad... Show me data indicating that tort reform is a more important factor in the cost of health care, compared with other major costs. I can't find anything which uses real numbers to back up that idea. All I can find is anecdotes and other bullshit, including proclamations from a convicted felon who lives with his mother. What are you, a lobbyist for the lawyer association? There has been a need for tort reform for as long as I can remember. The problem is that lawsuits rasie the cost of malpractice insurance, and without tort reform there can be no reduction in malpractice insurance costs, and those costs simply flow through to the examination room, rasising the cost of medicine. It only takes one unreasonable lawsuit to raise the cost of malpractice insurance. The new MRI machine is expensive but it gives doctors needed information that can save your life. Malpractice insurance is also expensive, but it does not give the doctors information that can save your life. One MRI can be used by 100 doctors, but each of those doctors needs malpractice insurance. So, the cost of the MRI is spread far and wide, the cost of malpractice id borne by all and passed on to you and I. You are an idiot if you think that health care problems can be resolved without a reduction in malpractice, which requires a change to the tort laws. Well, you're an idiot anyhow, but that's another story. Was it you who tried this last week or the week before? No, it was not me. The word "expensive" is meaningless No, it is not meaningless. It is relative, but not meaningless. unless you can come up with real numbers for the cost of malpractice insurance, along with real numbers for OTHER major costs which affect health care. Example: It costs $7000 to $9000 ***PER DAY*** to keep a corpse alive because he or she left absolutely no end of life instructions for their doctor and family. That is waste if the patient has zero hope of recovery. That is an example of costly service, not an example of malpractice. Indeed, the person is kept alive to AVERT malpractice. You've just made my point. Thank you. I never said it was an example of malpractice. You imagined that. It's an example of costs going up because of malpractice. You can't follow along with your own arguments, no wonder you are wrong so much. |
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