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Links have already been posted. You know how to step back through a few messages. Bummer joe. Good dodge though, you have my feeling of awe with your prowess, LOL. -- |
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In article <dWSVh.6975$B25.6645 (AT) news01 (DOT) roc.ny>, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: "dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message news:question*mark-634229.18051819042007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com... Do a google search and you can find a lot of companies that have been fined over the last couple years. The DOJ has a whole deparatment dedicated for just that purpose and have leavied many fines in the last few years. Not hard to find. But were they knowingly dumping. To make it simple, were they going in the middle of the night, sneaking around to avoid being seen and pouring the gunk into a river or what ever. OR, was it a error a mistake, accident? Knowingly doing it, during operating hours. Cathy Ok, where's the proof? -- How about applying for a permit to dump more than the law allows? Would that make you happy? Would you understand it if you read it? Joe!! Who, what, when, where? -- |
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In article <dWSVh.6975$B25.6645 (AT) news01 (DOT) roc.ny>, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: "dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message news:question*mark-634229.18051819042007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com... Do a google search and you can find a lot of companies that have been fined over the last couple years. The DOJ has a whole deparatment dedicated for just that purpose and have leavied many fines in the last few years. Not hard to find. But were they knowingly dumping. To make it simple, were they going in the middle of the night, sneaking around to avoid being seen and pouring the gunk into a river or what ever. OR, was it a error a mistake, accident? Knowingly doing it, during operating hours. Cathy Ok, where's the proof? -- How about applying for a permit to dump more than the law allows? Would that make you happy? Would you understand it if you read it? Joe!! Who, what, when, where? |
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"n5hsr" <n5hsr (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message news:nqSdnQsI7JboI7nbnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com... "Go Mavs" <GoMavz (AT) GoMavz (DOT) com> wrote in message news:8%2Vh.2129$xP.1572 (AT) trnddc04 (DOT) .. I dont see how anyone can believe in a God that allows such a thing to happen. They will be in my thoughts but I certainly wont be praying to anyone. OK, you obviously believe in a namby-pamby god. I wouldn't pray to some namby-pamby wimpy god either. If you're not praying to the Omnipotent God of all creation, who saves whom he will and uses even bad events to His glory, then you're praying to nothing. Just remember, EVERY knee shall bow, even yours and mine. Charles of Schaumburg I think you misunderstood. There is no God. If God does indeed exist then by our very laws he is a rapist, a murderer, a thug, and a violent criminal for letting happen what he lets happen. Even if it is at the cost of teaching a lesson then it he is still those things. Do you believe in free will Go Mavs? If you do then you have to |
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On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 13:24:57 GMT, "Go Mavs" <GoMavz (AT) GoMavz (DOT) com> wrote: "n5hsr" <n5hsr (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message news:nqSdnQsI7JboI7nbnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com... "Go Mavs" <GoMavz (AT) GoMavz (DOT) com> wrote in message news:8%2Vh.2129$xP.1572 (AT) trnddc04 (DOT) .. I dont see how anyone can believe in a God that allows such a thing to happen. They will be in my thoughts but I certainly wont be praying to anyone. OK, you obviously believe in a namby-pamby god. I wouldn't pray to some namby-pamby wimpy god either. If you're not praying to the Omnipotent God of all creation, who saves whom he will and uses even bad events to His glory, then you're praying to nothing. Just remember, EVERY knee shall bow, even yours and mine. Charles of Schaumburg I think you misunderstood. There is no God. If God does indeed exist then by our very laws he is a rapist, a murderer, a thug, and a violent criminal for letting happen what he lets happen. Even if it is at the cost of teaching a lesson then it he is still those things. Do you believe in free will Go Mavs? If you do then you have to believe in a God who lets you do as you wish. If God were to stop these horrendous actions then there would be no free will, you actions would be pre-ordained. Free will can't be just for folks who would do good, it has to be for folks who would do bad also. Jack |
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"Must be Me" <jackj^remove^180 (AT) windspead (DOT) net> wrote in message news:3ghh23dc2fefelrqhn46ut998hgpfc10l5 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 13:24:57 GMT, "Go Mavs" <GoMavz (AT) GoMavz (DOT) com> wrote: "n5hsr" <n5hsr (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message news:nqSdnQsI7JboI7nbnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com... "Go Mavs" <GoMavz (AT) GoMavz (DOT) com> wrote in message news:8%2Vh.2129$xP.1572 (AT) trnddc04 (DOT) .. I dont see how anyone can believe in a God that allows such a thing to happen. They will be in my thoughts but I certainly wont be praying to anyone. OK, you obviously believe in a namby-pamby god. I wouldn't pray to some namby-pamby wimpy god either. If you're not praying to the Omnipotent God of all creation, who saves whom he will and uses even bad events to His glory, then you're praying to nothing. Just remember, EVERY knee shall bow, even yours and mine. Charles of Schaumburg I think you misunderstood. There is no God. If God does indeed exist then by our very laws he is a rapist, a murderer, a thug, and a violent criminal for letting happen what he lets happen. Even if it is at the cost of teaching a lesson then it he is still those things. Do you believe in free will Go Mavs? If you do then you have to believe in a God who lets you do as you wish. If God were to stop these horrendous actions then there would be no free will, you actions would be pre-ordained. Free will can't be just for folks who would do good, it has to be for folks who would do bad also. Jack If this is true, then there's no purpose in the existence of a deity. You can make the case that the deity is the cause of the universe--but the |
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I think you misunderstood. There is no God. If God does indeed exist then by our very laws he is a rapist, a murderer, a thug, and a violent criminal for letting happen what he lets happen. Even if it is at the cost of teaching a lesson then it he is still those things. Do you believe in free will Go Mavs? If you do then you have to believe in a God who lets you do as you wish. If God were to stop these horrendous actions then there would be no free will, you actions would be pre-ordained. Free will can't be just for folks who would do good, it has to be for folks who would do bad also. Jack If this is true, then there's no purpose in the existence of a deity. |
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JoeSpareBedroom, 4/20/2007,10:01:05 AM, wrote: I think you misunderstood. There is no God. If God does indeed exist then by our very laws he is a rapist, a murderer, a thug, and a violent criminal for letting happen what he lets happen. Even if it is at the cost of teaching a lesson then it he is still those things. Do you believe in free will Go Mavs? If you do then you have to believe in a God who lets you do as you wish. If God were to stop these horrendous actions then there would be no free will, you actions would be pre-ordained. Free will can't be just for folks who would do good, it has to be for folks who would do bad also. Jack If this is true, then there's no purpose in the existence of a deity. The existence of the diety is for those who have come to realize that their free will is what creates trouble in their lives. When we submit to His will then we find events occur in a much smoother way than we could have ever forced ourselves. It is precisely those who deny the existence of God that force their will upon others and create chaos. God gave us free will because He wants us to come to Him rather than we be slaves to His will. |
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The existence of the diety is for those who have come to realize that their free will is what creates trouble in their lives. When we submit to His will then we find events occur in a much smoother way than we could have ever forced ourselves. It is precisely those who deny the existence of God that force their will upon others and create chaos. God gave us free will because He wants us to come to Him rather than we be slaves to His will. |
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