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Default Re: {OT}: Va Tech Masacre - 04-19-2007 , 07:28 PM






"dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote


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Links have already been posted. You know how to step back through a few
messages.

Bummer joe. Good dodge though, you have my feeling of awe with your
prowess, LOL.
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Default Re: {OT}: Va Tech Masacre - 04-19-2007 , 09:03 PM






"dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote

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In article <dWSVh.6975$B25.6645 (AT) news01 (DOT) roc.ny>,
"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

"dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:question*mark-634229.18051819042007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com...

Do a google search and you can find a lot of companies that have
been
fined over the last couple years. The DOJ has a whole deparatment
dedicated for just that purpose and have leavied many fines in the
last few years. Not hard to find.

But were they knowingly dumping. To make it simple, were they going
in
the middle of the night, sneaking around to avoid being seen and
pouring
the gunk into a river or what ever. OR, was it a error a mistake,
accident?

Knowingly doing it, during operating hours.

Cathy

Ok, where's the proof?
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How about applying for a permit to dump more than the law allows? Would
that
make you happy? Would you understand it if you read it?

Joe!! Who, what, when, where?
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Cathy F.
 
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Default Re: {OT}: Va Tech Masacre - 04-19-2007 , 09:27 PM




"dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
In article <dWSVh.6975$B25.6645 (AT) news01 (DOT) roc.ny>,
"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

"dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:question*mark-634229.18051819042007 (AT) comcast (DOT) dca.giganews.com...

Do a google search and you can find a lot of companies that have
been
fined over the last couple years. The DOJ has a whole deparatment
dedicated for just that purpose and have leavied many fines in the
last few years. Not hard to find.

But were they knowingly dumping. To make it simple, were they going
in
the middle of the night, sneaking around to avoid being seen and
pouring
the gunk into a river or what ever. OR, was it a error a mistake,
accident?

Knowingly doing it, during operating hours.

Cathy

Ok, where's the proof?
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How about applying for a permit to dump more than the law allows? Would
that
make you happy? Would you understand it if you read it?

Joe!! Who, what, when, where?
The EPA restrictions have been loosened from what they used to be in the
previous administration, now allowing more toxic spewing/dumping than
previously allowed. By guess who?

Cathy


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Must be Me
 
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Default Re: Va Tech Masacre - 04-20-2007 , 09:59 AM



On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 13:24:57 GMT, "Go Mavs" <GoMavz (AT) GoMavz (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
"n5hsr" <n5hsr (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:nqSdnQsI7JboI7nbnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com...
"Go Mavs" <GoMavz (AT) GoMavz (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:8%2Vh.2129$xP.1572 (AT) trnddc04 (DOT) ..
I dont see how anyone can believe in a God that allows such a thing to
happen. They will be in my thoughts but I certainly wont be praying to
anyone.


OK, you obviously believe in a namby-pamby god. I wouldn't pray to some
namby-pamby wimpy god either.

If you're not praying to the Omnipotent God of all creation, who saves
whom he will and uses even bad events to His glory, then you're praying to
nothing.

Just remember, EVERY knee shall bow, even yours and mine.

Charles of Schaumburg

I think you misunderstood. There is no God. If God does indeed exist then by
our very laws he is a rapist, a murderer, a thug, and a violent criminal for
letting happen what he lets happen. Even if it is at the cost of teaching a
lesson then it he is still those things.

Do you believe in free will Go Mavs? If you do then you have to
believe in a God who lets you do as you wish. If God were to stop
these horrendous actions then there would be no free will, you actions
would be pre-ordained. Free will can't be just for folks who would do
good, it has to be for folks who would do bad also.

Jack


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JoeSpareBedroom
 
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Default Re: Va Tech Masacre - 04-20-2007 , 10:01 AM



"Must be Me" <jackj^remove^180 (AT) windspead (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 13:24:57 GMT, "Go Mavs" <GoMavz (AT) GoMavz (DOT) com> wrote:


"n5hsr" <n5hsr (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:nqSdnQsI7JboI7nbnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com...
"Go Mavs" <GoMavz (AT) GoMavz (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:8%2Vh.2129$xP.1572 (AT) trnddc04 (DOT) ..
I dont see how anyone can believe in a God that allows such a thing to
happen. They will be in my thoughts but I certainly wont be praying to
anyone.


OK, you obviously believe in a namby-pamby god. I wouldn't pray to some
namby-pamby wimpy god either.

If you're not praying to the Omnipotent God of all creation, who saves
whom he will and uses even bad events to His glory, then you're praying
to
nothing.

Just remember, EVERY knee shall bow, even yours and mine.

Charles of Schaumburg

I think you misunderstood. There is no God. If God does indeed exist then
by
our very laws he is a rapist, a murderer, a thug, and a violent criminal
for
letting happen what he lets happen. Even if it is at the cost of teaching
a
lesson then it he is still those things.

Do you believe in free will Go Mavs? If you do then you have to
believe in a God who lets you do as you wish. If God were to stop
these horrendous actions then there would be no free will, you actions
would be pre-ordained. Free will can't be just for folks who would do
good, it has to be for folks who would do bad also.

Jack

If this is true, then there's no purpose in the existence of a deity.




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tak
 
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Default Re: Va Tech Masacre - 04-20-2007 , 10:19 AM




"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
"Must be Me" <jackj^remove^180 (AT) windspead (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:3ghh23dc2fefelrqhn46ut998hgpfc10l5 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 13:24:57 GMT, "Go Mavs" <GoMavz (AT) GoMavz (DOT) com> wrote:


"n5hsr" <n5hsr (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:nqSdnQsI7JboI7nbnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com...
"Go Mavs" <GoMavz (AT) GoMavz (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:8%2Vh.2129$xP.1572 (AT) trnddc04 (DOT) ..
I dont see how anyone can believe in a God that allows such a thing to
happen. They will be in my thoughts but I certainly wont be praying to
anyone.


OK, you obviously believe in a namby-pamby god. I wouldn't pray to
some
namby-pamby wimpy god either.

If you're not praying to the Omnipotent God of all creation, who saves
whom he will and uses even bad events to His glory, then you're praying
to
nothing.

Just remember, EVERY knee shall bow, even yours and mine.

Charles of Schaumburg

I think you misunderstood. There is no God. If God does indeed exist then
by
our very laws he is a rapist, a murderer, a thug, and a violent criminal
for
letting happen what he lets happen. Even if it is at the cost of teaching
a
lesson then it he is still those things.

Do you believe in free will Go Mavs? If you do then you have to
believe in a God who lets you do as you wish. If God were to stop
these horrendous actions then there would be no free will, you actions
would be pre-ordained. Free will can't be just for folks who would do
good, it has to be for folks who would do bad also.

Jack


If this is true, then there's no purpose in the existence of a deity.
You can make the case that the deity is the cause of the universe--but the
whole business is "just dancing in the dark"




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Default Re: {OT} Va Tech Masacre - 04-20-2007 , 06:05 PM



JoeSpareBedroom, 4/20/2007,10:01:05 AM, wrote:

Quote:
I think you misunderstood. There is no God. If God does indeed
exist then by our very laws he is a rapist, a murderer, a thug,
and a violent criminal for letting happen what he lets happen.
Even if it is at the cost of teaching a lesson then it he is
still those things.

Do you believe in free will Go Mavs? If you do then you have to
believe in a God who lets you do as you wish. If God were to stop
these horrendous actions then there would be no free will, you
actions would be pre-ordained. Free will can't be just for folks
who would do good, it has to be for folks who would do bad also.

Jack


If this is true, then there's no purpose in the existence of a deity.
The existence of the diety is for those who have come to realize that
their free will is what creates trouble in their lives. When we submit
to His will then we find events occur in a much smoother way than we
could have ever forced ourselves. It is precisely those who deny the
existence of God that force their will upon others and create chaos.
God gave us free will because He wants us to come to Him rather than we
be slaves to His will.


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JoeSpareBedroom
 
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Default Re: {OT} Va Tech Masacre - 04-20-2007 , 06:17 PM



"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
JoeSpareBedroom, 4/20/2007,10:01:05 AM, wrote:

I think you misunderstood. There is no God. If God does indeed
exist then by our very laws he is a rapist, a murderer, a thug,
and a violent criminal for letting happen what he lets happen.
Even if it is at the cost of teaching a lesson then it he is
still those things.

Do you believe in free will Go Mavs? If you do then you have to
believe in a God who lets you do as you wish. If God were to stop
these horrendous actions then there would be no free will, you
actions would be pre-ordained. Free will can't be just for folks
who would do good, it has to be for folks who would do bad also.

Jack


If this is true, then there's no purpose in the existence of a deity.

The existence of the diety is for those who have come to realize that
their free will is what creates trouble in their lives. When we submit
to His will then we find events occur in a much smoother way than we
could have ever forced ourselves. It is precisely those who deny the
existence of God that force their will upon others and create chaos.
God gave us free will because He wants us to come to Him rather than we
be slaves to His will.
For those without much of a conscience, this is perfect. Pass all
responsibility to someone or something outside of yourself. Same way you
vote.




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larry moe 'n curly
 
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Default Re: {OT} Va Tech Masacre - 04-22-2007 , 12:10 AM




badgolferman wrote:

Quote:
The existence of the diety is for those who have come to realize that
their free will is what creates trouble in their lives. When we submit
to His will then we find events occur in a much smoother way than we
could have ever forced ourselves. It is precisely those who deny the
existence of God that force their will upon others and create chaos.
God gave us free will because He wants us to come to Him rather than we
be slaves to His will.
It's a good thing that Osama bin Laden believes in God and isn't an
atheist.



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