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Re: {OT}: Va Tech Masacre -
04-17-2007
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| "Leythos" <Void (AT) nowhere (DOT) lan> wrote in message news:1176824659_21509 (AT) sp6iad (DOT) superfeed.net... On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:22:48 +0000, Truckdude wrote: "Leythos" <Void (AT) nowhere (DOT) lan> wrote in message news:1176822896_21413 (AT) sp6iad (DOT) superfeed.net... On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 14:33:40 +0000, Truckdude wrote: "Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant (AT) mindspring (DOT) net> wrote in message news:cfe9235cq5fgb4rvm3cv5ftlo1ubhf6igl (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 06:15:43 -0500, "n5hsr" <n5hsr (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote: Let's pray for those who remain behind today and have to deal with this mess. 33 people including the shooter. It looks like some of the teachers were among the victims. Guns don't kill people. People with guns kill people. If just one person involved had had a concealed weapon...... -- Scott in Florida ....or if one nutjob South Korean student had not been able to buy guns last month just because he wanted to..... It's been reported on several MSM sources that the serial numbers were filed down - killers don't do that, people that sell stolen guns and criminals dealing in guns do that - So, it would appear that he ILLEGALLY obtained weapons. Really? I read that the police found at least one gun purchase RECEIPT in his backpack. Or are criminal that sell guns giving out receipts?? http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070417/..._tech_shooting My understanding is that green card holders can't legally purchase guns, but I could be wrong. My information on the serial numbers can from CNN, Fox, CBS. -- Leythos spam999free (AT) rrohio (DOT) com (remove 999 for proper email address) Maybe for some reason the guy filed off the serial numbers himself after he bought them. They need to look for the smoking Dremel. |
Nice to see your sense of humor....every once in awhile....
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Scott in Florida
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On Apr 17, 6:11 am, Leythos <V... (AT) nowhere (DOT) lan> wrote: On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:00:31 -0500, dbu., wrote: Australia's small Greens party called on Tuesday for a further review of the nation's gun control laws, saying the latest U.S. shooting involved a multiple-shot pistol and there were an estimated 250,000 handguns in Australia. And guns are not permitted by citizens in Iran, Iraq, and yet they have killings every day. They still have gun killings in Oz.... Jeesh! another fuckin right wing idiot. Who is this left calling for a ban. Did you see someone on Fox representing the entire "Left". Hate to break it to you, these people are a small minority who are dumb enough to think gun control could stop this kind of problem, but I see nothing wrong with having a discussion about it. Fact is studies have shown that neither gun control or lack of gun control, have any effect on violent crime. Even so, I think it is importent to know how a non-citizen here on a student visa got his guns. |
source or a criminal makes no difference, each is as easy.
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Leythos
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On Apr 17, 6:11 am, Leythos <V... (AT) nowhere (DOT) lan> wrote: On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:00:31 -0500, dbu., wrote: Australia's small Greens party called on Tuesday for a further review of the nation's gun control laws, saying the latest U.S. shooting involved a multiple-shot pistol and there were an estimated 250,000 handguns in Australia. And guns are not permitted by citizens in Iran, Iraq, and yet they have killings every day. They still have gun killings in Oz.... Jeesh! another fuckin right wing idiot. Who is this left calling for a ban. Did you see someone on Fox representing the entire "Left". Hate to break it to you, these people are a small minority who are dumb enough to think gun control could stop this kind of problem, but I see nothing wrong with having a discussion about it. Fact is studies have shown that neither gun control or lack of gun control, have any effect on violent crime. Even so, I think it is importent to know how a non-citizen here on a student visa got his guns. |
vs. the US, you will see a striking difference.
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In article <1176825158.731050.63... (AT) y5g2000hsa (DOT) googlegroups.com>, ToMh <tlh... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: On Apr 17, 6:11 am, Leythos <V... (AT) nowhere (DOT) lan> wrote: On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:00:31 -0500, dbu., wrote: Australia's small Greens party called on Tuesday for a further review of the nation's gun control laws, saying the latest U.S. shooting involved a multiple-shot pistol and there were an estimated 250,000 handguns in Australia. And guns are not permitted by citizens in Iran, Iraq, and yet they have killings every day. They still have gun killings in Oz.... Jeesh! another fuckin right wing idiot. Who is this left calling for a ban. Did you see someone on Fox representing the entire "Left". Hate to break it to you, these people are a small minority who are dumb enough to think gun control could stop this kind of problem, but I see nothing wrong with having a discussion about it. Fact is studies have shown that neither gun control or lack of gun control, have any effect on violent crime. Even so, I think it is importent to know how a non-citizen here on a student visa got his guns. I agree that gun control has no or little effect on the gun violence. I must however point out to you that the most fervent gun control advocates are on the Democrat side. Keep that in mind when you go to the polls. -- |
any gun control? I'm a lifelong gun owner. Grew up with guns, mostly
hunting rifles and shotguns. I believe in reasonable gun control, a
little left of the NRA but right of most liberals. I'd rather see
existing laws enforced and penalties increased.
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On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 14:33:40 +0000, Truckdude wrote: "Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant (AT) mindspring (DOT) net> wrote in message news:cfe9235cq5fgb4rvm3cv5ftlo1ubhf6igl (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 06:15:43 -0500, "n5hsr" <n5hsr (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote: Let's pray for those who remain behind today and have to deal with this mess. 33 people including the shooter. It looks like some of the teachers were among the victims. Guns don't kill people. People with guns kill people. If just one person involved had had a concealed weapon...... -- Scott in Florida ....or if one nutjob South Korean student had not been able to buy guns last month just because he wanted to..... It's been reported on several MSM sources that the serial numbers were filed down - killers don't do that, people that sell stolen guns and criminals dealing in guns do that - So, it would appear that he ILLEGALLY obtained weapons. -- Leythos spam999free (AT) rrohio (DOT) com (remove 999 for proper email address) |
reported: The student bought both his Glock and Walther last month in VA
and apparently filed the serial numbers off himself. He had no ID on him,
but he did have the gun shop business card. Those tidbits will hopefully
zip the lips of many rightards.
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On Apr 17, 7:59 am, "dbu.," <question*m... (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote: In article <1176825158.731050.63... (AT) y5g2000hsa (DOT) googlegroups.com>, ToMh <tlh... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: On Apr 17, 6:11 am, Leythos <V... (AT) nowhere (DOT) lan> wrote: On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:00:31 -0500, dbu., wrote: Australia's small Greens party called on Tuesday for a further review of the nation's gun control laws, saying the latest U.S. shooting involved a multiple-shot pistol and there were an estimated 250,000 handguns in Australia. And guns are not permitted by citizens in Iran, Iraq, and yet they have killings every day. They still have gun killings in Oz.... Jeesh! another fuckin right wing idiot. Who is this left calling for a ban. Did you see someone on Fox representing the entire "Left". Hate to break it to you, these people are a small minority who are dumb enough to think gun control could stop this kind of problem, but I see nothing wrong with having a discussion about it. Fact is studies have shown that neither gun control or lack of gun control, have any effect on violent crime. Even so, I think it is importent to know how a non-citizen here on a student visa got his guns. I agree that gun control has no or little effect on the gun violence. I must however point out to you that the most fervent gun control advocates are on the Democrat side. Keep that in mind when you go to the polls. -- This is true, but almost a non issue any more. Do you not believe in any gun control? I'm a lifelong gun owner. Grew up with guns, mostly hunting rifles and shotguns. I believe in reasonable gun control, a little left of the NRA but right of most liberals. I'd rather see existing laws enforced and penalties increased. |
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"Leythos" <Void (AT) nowhere (DOT) lan> wrote in message news:1176822896_21413 (AT) sp6iad (DOT) superfeed.net... On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 14:33:40 +0000, Truckdude wrote: "Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant (AT) mindspring (DOT) net> wrote in message news:cfe9235cq5fgb4rvm3cv5ftlo1ubhf6igl (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 06:15:43 -0500, "n5hsr" <n5hsr (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote: Let's pray for those who remain behind today and have to deal with this mess. 33 people including the shooter. It looks like some of the teachers were among the victims. Guns don't kill people. People with guns kill people. If just one person involved had had a concealed weapon...... -- Scott in Florida ....or if one nutjob South Korean student had not been able to buy guns last month just because he wanted to..... It's been reported on several MSM sources that the serial numbers were filed down - killers don't do that, people that sell stolen guns and criminals dealing in guns do that - So, it would appear that he ILLEGALLY obtained weapons. As I am sitting here, MSNBC is on in the background. What I just heard reported: The student bought both his Glock and Walther last month in VA and apparently filed the serial numbers off himself. He had no ID on him, but he did have the gun shop business card. Those tidbits will hopefully zip the lips of many rightards. |
shooting sports to kids under 18.
The fact that a legal citizen bought guns legally and used them in a crime
has nothing to do with zipping our lipe.
What do you want to bet that even a full background check would have
cleared him for purchase.
What do you want to bet that he could easily have got guns from a
non-legal source?
What do you want to bet that he could have used a Car/SUV/Truck to kill as
many?
What do you want to bet that if Carry had been permitted on Campus, that
he would not have killed as many?
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Leythos
spam999free (AT) rrohio (DOT) com (remove 999 for proper email address)
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On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:18:18 +0000, Truckdude wrote: "Leythos" <Void (AT) nowhere (DOT) lan> wrote in message news:1176822896_21413 (AT) sp6iad (DOT) superfeed.net... On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 14:33:40 +0000, Truckdude wrote: "Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant (AT) mindspring (DOT) net> wrote in message news:cfe9235cq5fgb4rvm3cv5ftlo1ubhf6igl (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 06:15:43 -0500, "n5hsr" <n5hsr (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote: Let's pray for those who remain behind today and have to deal with this mess. 33 people including the shooter. It looks like some of the teachers were among the victims. Guns don't kill people. People with guns kill people. If just one person involved had had a concealed weapon...... -- Scott in Florida ....or if one nutjob South Korean student had not been able to buy guns last month just because he wanted to..... It's been reported on several MSM sources that the serial numbers were filed down - killers don't do that, people that sell stolen guns and criminals dealing in guns do that - So, it would appear that he ILLEGALLY obtained weapons. As I am sitting here, MSNBC is on in the background. What I just heard reported: The student bought both his Glock and Walther last month in VA and apparently filed the serial numbers off himself. He had no ID on him, but he did have the gun shop business card. Those tidbits will hopefully zip the lips of many rightards. I could be considered a right-tard as I own several guns and teach shooting sports to kids under 18. |
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What do you want to bet that he could easily have got guns from a non-legal source? |
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What do you want to bet that if Carry had been permitted on Campus, that he would not have killed as many? -- Leythos spam999free (AT) rrohio (DOT) com (remove 999 for proper email address) |
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"ToMh" <tlh... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1176826500.955236.292860 (AT) l77g2000hsb (DOT) googlegroups.com... On Apr 17, 7:59 am, "dbu.," <question*m... (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote: In article <1176825158.731050.63... (AT) y5g2000hsa (DOT) googlegroups.com>, ToMh <tlh... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: On Apr 17, 6:11 am, Leythos <V... (AT) nowhere (DOT) lan> wrote: On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:00:31 -0500, dbu., wrote: Australia's small Greens party called on Tuesday for a further review of the nation's gun control laws, saying the latest U.S. shooting involved a multiple-shot pistol and there were an estimated 250,000 handguns in Australia. And guns are not permitted by citizens in Iran, Iraq, and yet they have killings every day. They still have gun killings in Oz.... Jeesh! another fuckin right wing idiot. Who is this left calling for a ban. Did you see someone on Fox representing the entire "Left". Hate to break it to you, these people are a small minority who are dumb enough to think gun control could stop this kind of problem, but I see nothing wrong with having a discussion about it. Fact is studies have shown that neither gun control or lack of gun control, have any effect on violent crime. Even so, I think it is importent to know how a non-citizen here on a student visa got his guns. I agree that gun control has no or little effect on the gun violence. I must however point out to you that the most fervent gun control advocates are on the Democrat side. Keep that in mind when you go to the polls. -- This is true, but almost a non issue any more. Do you not believe in any gun control? I'm a lifelong gun owner. Grew up with guns, mostly hunting rifles and shotguns. I believe in reasonable gun control, a little left of the NRA but right of most liberals. I'd rather see existing laws enforced and penalties increased. And what would have that done to prevent this massacre yesterday?? |
was greatlt mishandled, once the shootings started. I don't want to
second guess the handling, maybe I don't know all the facts, but it is
unfathomable to me, in this day and age, that you can have a shooting
on campus, the shooter is still at large, and they didn't lock down
the campus! I wouldn't want to be the person in charge of campus
security, that's for sure.
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"ToMh" <tlh... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1176825158.731050.63140 (AT) y5g2000hsa (DOT) googlegroups.com... On Apr 17, 6:11 am, Leythos <V... (AT) nowhere (DOT) lan> wrote: On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:00:31 -0500, dbu., wrote: Australia's small Greens party called on Tuesday for a further review of the nation's gun control laws, saying the latest U.S. shooting involved a multiple-shot pistol and there were an estimated 250,000 handguns in Australia. And guns are not permitted by citizens in Iran, Iraq, and yet they have killings every day. They still have gun killings in Oz.... Jeesh! another fuckin right wing idiot. Who is this left calling for a ban. Did you see someone on Fox representing the entire "Left". Hate to break it to you, these people are a small minority who are dumb enough to think gun control could stop this kind of problem, but I see nothing wrong with having a discussion about it. Fact is studies have shown that neither gun control or lack of gun control, have any effect on violent crime. Even so, I think it is importent to know how a non-citizen here on a student visa got his guns. Fact is, if you compare gun deaths per capita in countries with gun control vs. the US, you will see a striking difference. |
But the murder rate isn't really much of a difference.
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