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Default Re: Prius fails Gerogia emissions test.... - 04-18-2007 , 06:03 PM







"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno (AT) AE86 (DOT) gts> wrote

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On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:53:45 +0000, Go Mavs wrote:
But...there is no solid proof the warming trend is being caused by us!
Maybe or maybe not. Its not necessarily easy to prove. However, in the mean
time, it might be wise to lessen our release of C02.



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See my other posts on the matter.

You are (I think) sort of new here; a few months ago (maybe a year?) I
posted a post about a paper I did for a Geology course I was taking in
College wherein I put forth the propostition that warming occurred prior
to an ice age, and based it on the fact that August is the hottest month
of the year, 6 weeks after the sun has reached it's highest point. In 1975
there wasn't a lot of reference to draw upon, so it was a LOT of
inference.
The biggest part of what I presented was that the Earth does not orbit the
Sun uniformly, and at times orbit closer (warmer periods) and at others is
further out (ice ages).

I believe we are on the verge of beginning the swing outward again, and
the Earth is warming because we are nearing the cycle in the orbit pattern
that brings us the closest to the sun.

Interestingly enough, studies of Antarctic ice have so far shown my
'theory' to be correct! (Believe me, it's something I keep an eye on!)

I posted a reference to some of the material I have run across in another
post.

But the bottom line is, I don't believe we have as much an effect on
climate change as we would be led to believe. There are a LOT greater
factors to take into consideration! Do greenhouse gasses play a part? I
would believe so, but remember there were those in the 50's that believed
the emissions caused by burning (anything) for energy would bring on
cooling!

(as you can see, this is a particularly interesting area of study for
me. Had I gone into Geology instead of Electronics, I would have persued
this!)




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Default Re: Prius fails Gerogia emissions test.... - 04-18-2007 , 06:25 PM







"dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote

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In article <ds4d2391r26buppa803j6gong5kg2dfmeq (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>,
Scott in Florida <askifyouwant (AT) mindspring (DOT) net> wrote:

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:46:14 -0400, "Cathy F." <clfr (AT) adelphiadot (DOT) net
wrote:


"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant (AT) mindspring (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:0bqc23h10ithq3tp3515686rq70i9j49cq (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=6931

Your subject line is completely misleading. It implies that the
emissions
are too high & don't meet the state emissions standard, which of course
is
ludicrous.

Cathy


No my subject line is correct.

The Prius fails the Georgia emissions test.

Period....

They are attacking the messenger, LOL
I don't see any attack.

The OP is saying that his subject line is correct. The OP is also correct.

The Prius failed the test. It is a stupid test. But what do you expect wtih
a Republican governor? Well, at least he wears seat belts. ;-)

Jeff
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Default Re: Prius fails Gerogia emissions test.... - 04-18-2007 , 06:32 PM




"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno (AT) AE86 (DOT) gts> wrote

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On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:46:14 -0400, Cathy F. wrote:


"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant (AT) mindspring (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:0bqc23h10ithq3tp3515686rq70i9j49cq (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=6931

Your subject line is completely misleading. It implies that the
emissions
are too high & don't meet the state emissions standard, which of course
is
ludicrous.

Cathy

No, he said it fails, which, technically, it does.
"Technically" being one operative word. ""Misleading" and "implies" being
the other two.

Anyone reading that subject line, but not the article, would be left
assuming that the Prius's emissions are too high to be able to pass the
emissions test.
I wouldn't put it past Scott to have posted it that way on purpose, just to
get a reaction. If it wasn't on purpose, then... uh-oh...

Cathy


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An "incompltete test" is considered a failure (in Mass, but the tests are
Federal) and you get a Black reject (emissions).






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Mike Hunter
 
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Default Re: Prius fails Gerogia emissions test.... - 04-18-2007 , 06:53 PM



DUH, CO2 is not a pollutant, without it all vegetation on earth would die.
Without the greenhouse gases, that hold heat in the atmosphere, we could not
live on the earth.

mike

"Go Mavs" <GoMavz (AT) GoMavz (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
"Cathy F." <clfr (AT) adelphiadot (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:LKSdnQ1jlJgCHrvb4p2dnA (AT) giganews (DOT) com...

"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant (AT) mindspring (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:0bqc23h10ithq3tp3515686rq70i9j49cq (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=6931

Your subject line is completely misleading. It implies that the
emissions are too high & don't meet the state emissions standard, which
of course is ludicrous.

Cathy

It's a knee jerk reaction that many of these environmental damage deniers
live on. The entire "their is no solid proof that the current global
warming trend is being caused by us so let's keep polluting and mocking
those who are concerned" attitude is ridiculous at best.




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Jeff
 
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Default Re: Prius fails Gerogia emissions test.... - 04-18-2007 , 07:01 PM




"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2 (AT) mailcity (DOT) com> wrote

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DUH, CO2 is not a pollutant, without it all vegetation on earth would die.
Without the greenhouse gases, that hold heat in the atmosphere, we could
not live on the earth.
Yet, with too much greenhouse gas, like on Venus, the Earth will get too
hot.

DOH!

CO2 is also a poison. When I was doing lab research, rats were euthanized
with CO2. CO2 nearly posioned the astronauts on the Apollo 13 mission
(according to the book _The_Lost_Moon_ by James Lovell). If the
concentration of CO2 in your body goes up by 50%, your blood pH will go down
and you will start breathing real fast (this is called respiratory
acidosis).

Jeff

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mike

"Go Mavs" <GoMavz (AT) GoMavz (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:tzvVh.1614$jR5.74 (AT) trnddc08 (DOT) ..

"Cathy F." <clfr (AT) adelphiadot (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:LKSdnQ1jlJgCHrvb4p2dnA (AT) giganews (DOT) com...

"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant (AT) mindspring (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:0bqc23h10ithq3tp3515686rq70i9j49cq (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=6931

Your subject line is completely misleading. It implies that the
emissions are too high & don't meet the state emissions standard, which
of course is ludicrous.

Cathy

It's a knee jerk reaction that many of these environmental damage deniers
live on. The entire "their is no solid proof that the current global
warming trend is being caused by us so let's keep polluting and mocking
those who are concerned" attitude is ridiculous at best.





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Go Mavs
 
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Default Re: Prius fails Gerogia emissions test.... - 04-18-2007 , 07:06 PM




"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2 (AT) mailcity (DOT) com> wrote

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DUH, CO2 is not a pollutant, without it all vegetation on earth would die.
Without the greenhouse gases, that hold heat in the atmosphere, we could
not live on the earth.

mike
That's kind of a faulty argument. That's like saying some level of arsenic
is important to the body so go ahead and drink a gallon of it. Or that iron
is important to the body so eat 50 times the regular amount your body needs.




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Default Re: Prius fails Gerogia emissions test.... - 04-18-2007 , 07:08 PM




"Jeff" <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote

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"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2 (AT) mailcity (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:P62dnSAR5qrhPLvbnZ2dnUVZ_vOlnZ2d (AT) ptd (DOT) net...
DUH, CO2 is not a pollutant, without it all vegetation on earth would
die. Without the greenhouse gases, that hold heat in the atmosphere, we
could not live on the earth.

Yet, with too much greenhouse gas, like on Venus, the Earth will get too
hot.

DOH!

CO2 is also a poison. When I was doing lab research, rats were euthanized
with CO2. CO2 nearly posioned the astronauts on the Apollo 13 mission
(according to the book _The_Lost_Moon_ by James Lovell). If the
concentration of CO2 in your body goes up by 50%, your blood pH will go
down and you will start breathing real fast (this is called respiratory
acidosis).

Jeff


Precisely. This goes back to the thought process I was talking about. These
guys dont think past their own argument. C02 is normal and in fact it is
released naturally. However, doubling up on that or quadrupling isnt
normal.. Kind of like saying a certain amoung of salt is normal for the body
so it shouldnt hurt if you eat 100 times that amount. When infact it would
kill you to do such a thing.




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Default Re: Prius fails Gerogia emissions test.... - 04-18-2007 , 07:09 PM




"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant (AT) mindspring (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:46:14 -0400, "Cathy F." <clfr (AT) adelphiadot (DOT) net
wrote:


"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant (AT) mindspring (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:0bqc23h10ithq3tp3515686rq70i9j49cq (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=6931

Your subject line is completely misleading. It implies that the emissions
are too high & don't meet the state emissions standard, which of course is
ludicrous.

Cathy


No my subject line is correct.

The Prius fails the Georgia emissions test.

Period....




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Scott in Florida
Its misleading. The car fails the test because of the testing device and for
no other reason.





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Default Re: Prius fails Gerogia emissions test.... - 04-18-2007 , 08:59 PM





"Jeff" <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2 (AT) mailcity (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:P62dnSAR5qrhPLvbnZ2dnUVZ_vOlnZ2d (AT) ptd (DOT) net...
DUH, CO2 is not a pollutant, without it all vegetation on earth would
die. Without the greenhouse gases, that hold heat in the atmosphere, we
could not live on the earth.

Yet, with too much greenhouse gas, like on Venus, the Earth will get too
hot.

DOH!

CO2 is also a poison. When I was doing lab research, rats were euthanized
with CO2. CO2 nearly posioned the astronauts on the Apollo 13 mission
(according to the book _The_Lost_Moon_ by James Lovell). If the
concentration of CO2 in your body goes up by 50%, your blood pH will go
down and you will start breathing real fast (this is called respiratory
acidosis).

Jeff
You in the medical field?




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Default Re: Prius fails Gerogia emissions test.... - 04-18-2007 , 10:19 PM



On Apr 18, 4:53 pm, "Go Mavs" <GoM... (AT) GoMavz (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
"Cathy F." <c... (AT) adelphiadot (DOT) net> wrote in message

news:LKSdnQ1jlJgCHrvb4p2dnA (AT) giganews (DOT) com...



"Scott in Florida" <askifyouw... (AT) mindspring (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:0bqc23h10ithq3tp3515686rq70i9j49cq (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=6931

Your subject line is completely misleading. It implies that the emissions
are too high & don't meet the state emissions standard, which of course is
ludicrous.

Cathy

It's a knee jerk reaction that many of these environmental damage deniers
live on. The entire "their is no solid proof that the current global warming
trend is being caused by us so let's keep polluting and mocking those who
are concerned" attitude is ridiculous at best.
The emissions to be measured aren't related to global warming at all,
so please don't try to confuse the issue. The tested emissions are
for low-atmospheric-level pollutants that create smog (making it
difficult to breathe) and acid rain (which erodes buildings and
poisons plants).



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