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Prius fails Gerogia emissions test....
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Re: Prius fails Gerogia emissions test.... -
04-18-2007
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On Apr 18, 4:53 pm, "Go Mavs" <GoM... (AT) GoMavz (DOT) com> wrote: "Cathy F." <c... (AT) adelphiadot (DOT) net> wrote in message news:LKSdnQ1jlJgCHrvb4p2dnA (AT) giganews (DOT) com... "Scott in Florida" <askifyouw... (AT) mindspring (DOT) net> wrote in message news:0bqc23h10ithq3tp3515686rq70i9j49cq (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=6931 Your subject line is completely misleading. It implies that the emissions are too high & don't meet the state emissions standard, which of course is ludicrous. Cathy It's a knee jerk reaction that many of these environmental damage deniers live on. The entire "their is no solid proof that the current global warming trend is being caused by us so let's keep polluting and mocking those who are concerned" attitude is ridiculous at best. The emissions to be measured aren't related to global warming at all, so please don't try to confuse the issue. The tested emissions are for low-atmospheric-level pollutants that create smog (making it difficult to breathe) and acid rain (which erodes buildings and poisons plants). |
I had missed this.
Thanks for point it out.
I will add that there is a recent US Supreme Court decision that says that
the EPA has to duty to regulate greenhouse gases, such as CO2, but this
isn't part of the testing in Georgia, AFAIK. Greenhouse gases may also be
regulated by some states, such as CA and NY, but, I don't see how that would
require testing. Rather, the fuel efficiency of the various vehicles would
be regulated rather than the CO2 output.
Jeff
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| "Jeff" <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:SqxVh.11386$h8.4979 (AT) trnddc06 (DOT) .. "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2 (AT) mailcity (DOT) com> wrote in message news:P62dnSAR5qrhPLvbnZ2dnUVZ_vOlnZ2d (AT) ptd (DOT) net... DUH, CO2 is not a pollutant, without it all vegetation on earth would die. Without the greenhouse gases, that hold heat in the atmosphere, we could not live on the earth. Yet, with too much greenhouse gas, like on Venus, the Earth will get too hot. DOH! CO2 is also a poison. When I was doing lab research, rats were euthanized with CO2. CO2 nearly posioned the astronauts on the Apollo 13 mission (according to the book _The_Lost_Moon_ by James Lovell). If the concentration of CO2 in your body goes up by 50%, your blood pH will go down and you will start breathing real fast (this is called respiratory acidosis). Jeff You in the medical field? |
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"If the ICE is not running at a constant idle speed, the emission test cannot complete and the vehicle fails." The testing centers need to be updated then... |
test in the first place?
http://www.cleanairforce.com/emission.htm#whattests8
<quote>
All 1996 and newer vehicles will receive a two-part inspection.
* An OBD test to check your vehicle's emission control performance
history.
* A fuel cap inspection to check for adequate seal.
If an OBD test is unable to be performed on a vehicle, it may be
necessary to perform a Two-Speed Idle test (TSI).
</quote>
Perhaps the GA test equipment cannot handle the CAN that the Prius'
OBD-II port runs on? If so, then there'll be a lot of other vehicles
other than just the Prius that'll need the more-involved 2-speed idle
test...
And you can get the Prius to idle if need be for such a test, that's
what the Inspection Mode listed in the Repair Manual is for. but
never to be driven left in that mode!
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"Truckdude" <shrub (AT) thedeecider (DOT) com> wrote in message news:7azVh.1676$jR5.1659 (AT) trnddc08 (DOT) .. "Jeff" <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:SqxVh.11386$h8.4979 (AT) trnddc06 (DOT) .. "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2 (AT) mailcity (DOT) com> wrote in message news:P62dnSAR5qrhPLvbnZ2dnUVZ_vOlnZ2d (AT) ptd (DOT) net... DUH, CO2 is not a pollutant, without it all vegetation on earth would die. Without the greenhouse gases, that hold heat in the atmosphere, we could not live on the earth. Yet, with too much greenhouse gas, like on Venus, the Earth will get too hot. DOH! CO2 is also a poison. When I was doing lab research, rats were euthanized with CO2. CO2 nearly posioned the astronauts on the Apollo 13 mission (according to the book _The_Lost_Moon_ by James Lovell). If the concentration of CO2 in your body goes up by 50%, your blood pH will go down and you will start breathing real fast (this is called respiratory acidosis). Jeff You in the medical field? I retired from that field. |
blood gas terminology here.
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| "Jeff" <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:cDAVh.4833$nU4.1397 (AT) trnddc03 (DOT) .. "Truckdude" <shrub (AT) thedeecider (DOT) com> wrote in message news:7azVh.1676$jR5.1659 (AT) trnddc08 (DOT) .. "Jeff" <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:SqxVh.11386$h8.4979 (AT) trnddc06 (DOT) .. "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2 (AT) mailcity (DOT) com> wrote in message news:P62dnSAR5qrhPLvbnZ2dnUVZ_vOlnZ2d (AT) ptd (DOT) net... DUH, CO2 is not a pollutant, without it all vegetation on earth would die. Without the greenhouse gases, that hold heat in the atmosphere, we could not live on the earth. Yet, with too much greenhouse gas, like on Venus, the Earth will get too hot. DOH! CO2 is also a poison. When I was doing lab research, rats were euthanized with CO2. CO2 nearly posioned the astronauts on the Apollo 13 mission (according to the book _The_Lost_Moon_ by James Lovell). If the concentration of CO2 in your body goes up by 50%, your blood pH will go down and you will start breathing real fast (this is called respiratory acidosis). Jeff You in the medical field? I retired from that field. What area specifically? I ask because I am an RN and it was odd seeing blood gas terminology here. |
kids, really. Though it always doesn't show.
Jeff
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DUH, CO2 is not a pollutant, without it all vegetation on earth would die. Without the greenhouse gases, that hold heat in the atmosphere, we could not live on the earth. mike |
water can be deadly.
Ed
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"Truckdude" <shrub (AT) thedeecider (DOT) com> wrote in message news:0PAVh.7890$xL6.6229 (AT) trnddc05 (DOT) .. "Jeff" <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:cDAVh.4833$nU4.1397 (AT) trnddc03 (DOT) .. "Truckdude" <shrub (AT) thedeecider (DOT) com> wrote in message news:7azVh.1676$jR5.1659 (AT) trnddc08 (DOT) .. "Jeff" <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:SqxVh.11386$h8.4979 (AT) trnddc06 (DOT) .. "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2 (AT) mailcity (DOT) com> wrote in message news:P62dnSAR5qrhPLvbnZ2dnUVZ_vOlnZ2d (AT) ptd (DOT) net... DUH, CO2 is not a pollutant, without it all vegetation on earth would die. Without the greenhouse gases, that hold heat in the atmosphere, we could not live on the earth. Yet, with too much greenhouse gas, like on Venus, the Earth will get too hot. DOH! CO2 is also a poison. When I was doing lab research, rats were euthanized with CO2. CO2 nearly posioned the astronauts on the Apollo 13 mission (according to the book _The_Lost_Moon_ by James Lovell). If the concentration of CO2 in your body goes up by 50%, your blood pH will go down and you will start breathing real fast (this is called respiratory acidosis). Jeff You in the medical field? I retired from that field. What area specifically? I ask because I am an RN and it was odd seeing blood gas terminology here. Pediatrics. But I am teacher of teenagers now. Teenagers in Harlem. Great kids, really. Though it always doesn't show. Jeff |
(newborn to 18 years) with congenital defects, arrhythmias, along with heart
and other solid organ transplants. Are you a retired physician?
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| "Jeff" <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:5XAVh.3935$Qp.229 (AT) trnddc07 (DOT) .. "Truckdude" <shrub (AT) thedeecider (DOT) com> wrote in message news:0PAVh.7890$xL6.6229 (AT) trnddc05 (DOT) .. "Jeff" <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:cDAVh.4833$nU4.1397 (AT) trnddc03 (DOT) .. "Truckdude" <shrub (AT) thedeecider (DOT) com> wrote in message news:7azVh.1676$jR5.1659 (AT) trnddc08 (DOT) .. "Jeff" <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:SqxVh.11386$h8.4979 (AT) trnddc06 (DOT) .. "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2 (AT) mailcity (DOT) com> wrote in message news:P62dnSAR5qrhPLvbnZ2dnUVZ_vOlnZ2d (AT) ptd (DOT) net... DUH, CO2 is not a pollutant, without it all vegetation on earth would die. Without the greenhouse gases, that hold heat in the atmosphere, we could not live on the earth. Yet, with too much greenhouse gas, like on Venus, the Earth will get too hot. DOH! CO2 is also a poison. When I was doing lab research, rats were euthanized with CO2. CO2 nearly posioned the astronauts on the Apollo 13 mission (according to the book _The_Lost_Moon_ by James Lovell). If the concentration of CO2 in your body goes up by 50%, your blood pH will go down and you will start breathing real fast (this is called respiratory acidosis). Jeff You in the medical field? I retired from that field. What area specifically? I ask because I am an RN and it was odd seeing blood gas terminology here. Pediatrics. But I am teacher of teenagers now. Teenagers in Harlem. Great kids, really. Though it always doesn't show. Jeff Me too. Pediatric Cardiac/Solid Organ Transplant ICU to be specific. Kids (newborn to 18 years) with congenital defects, arrhythmias, along with heart and other solid organ transplants. Are you a retired physician? |
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"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2 (AT) mailcity (DOT) com> wrote in message news:P62dnSAR5qrhPLvbnZ2dnUVZ_vOlnZ2d (AT) ptd (DOT) net... DUH, CO2 is not a pollutant, without it all vegetation on earth would die. Without the greenhouse gases, that hold heat in the atmosphere, we could not live on the earth. mike And water is not a poision,and without it we could not live, but too much water can be deadly. Ed |
intoxication during a stupid radio contest recently.
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"Truckdude" <shrub (AT) thedeecider (DOT) com> wrote in message news:HdBVh.3943$Qp.2202 (AT) trnddc07 (DOT) .. "Jeff" <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:5XAVh.3935$Qp.229 (AT) trnddc07 (DOT) .. "Truckdude" <shrub (AT) thedeecider (DOT) com> wrote in message news:0PAVh.7890$xL6.6229 (AT) trnddc05 (DOT) .. "Jeff" <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:cDAVh.4833$nU4.1397 (AT) trnddc03 (DOT) .. "Truckdude" <shrub (AT) thedeecider (DOT) com> wrote in message news:7azVh.1676$jR5.1659 (AT) trnddc08 (DOT) .. "Jeff" <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:SqxVh.11386$h8.4979 (AT) trnddc06 (DOT) .. "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2 (AT) mailcity (DOT) com> wrote in message news:P62dnSAR5qrhPLvbnZ2dnUVZ_vOlnZ2d (AT) ptd (DOT) net... DUH, CO2 is not a pollutant, without it all vegetation on earth would die. Without the greenhouse gases, that hold heat in the atmosphere, we could not live on the earth. Yet, with too much greenhouse gas, like on Venus, the Earth will get too hot. DOH! CO2 is also a poison. When I was doing lab research, rats were euthanized with CO2. CO2 nearly posioned the astronauts on the Apollo 13 mission (according to the book _The_Lost_Moon_ by James Lovell). If the concentration of CO2 in your body goes up by 50%, your blood pH will go down and you will start breathing real fast (this is called respiratory acidosis). Jeff You in the medical field? I retired from that field. What area specifically? I ask because I am an RN and it was odd seeing blood gas terminology here. Pediatrics. But I am teacher of teenagers now. Teenagers in Harlem. Great kids, really. Though it always doesn't show. Jeff Me too. Pediatric Cardiac/Solid Organ Transplant ICU to be specific. Kids (newborn to 18 years) with congenital defects, arrhythmias, along with heart and other solid organ transplants. Are you a retired physician? No, changed careers. The insurance would have driven me nuts. |
careers?
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