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Default RAV4 -- 4x4 vs 4x2 - 09-23-2006 , 06:47 PM






Hi,

Just curious about what people think of the 4WD vs
Front WD for the RAV4?

I've only had front-wheel drive cars up to now and they
have been just fine (Honda Civic before, 1991 Toyota Corolla
DX Wagon now)

I am seriously considering a RAV4, and I am tempted to
get the 4x2 as the car will be 99% of the time on paved
roads :-)

I think the slightly better fuel economy and possibly fewer
problems with a simpler mechanical setup will lead to better
long-term reliability/maintenance.

Your thoughts? (You may also toss in opinions for 4cyl vs v6 ..
I'm leaning towards the 4cyl .. no need to tow much, I know
that's one major difference in addition to possibly better
acceleration)

Thanks!

Esmail

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Default Re: RAV4 -- 4x4 vs 4x2 - 09-23-2006 , 07:27 PM






Hachiroku wrote:
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I would ask, first of all, where do you live? Do you NEED AWD, will you
use it, of are you in an area where it won't be used?
Well, right now I'm in NE Ohio, but I will be moving most likely next
year (not sure where in the US).

I drove my front-wheel vehicles without troubles in the harsh Iowa
winters for many years. I suppose if I had mountains to contend with
a 4WD would be a safer choice. Perhaps I should try to wait on a new
car until I know where I am moving ...

Yes, Toyotas are great cars and super reliable in my experience.
My 1991 Corolla Wagon has had only break pads replaced and the
battery once. That's all .. trouble free as can be.

Esmail


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Default Re: RAV4 -- 4x4 vs 4x2 - 09-23-2006 , 10:54 PM



"Wolfgang" <NOwolfXgang_dieterxSPAM (AT) NOXcox (DOT) netNOT> wrote

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The RAV4 is not an off road vehicle --- underneath its Corolla based. The
4WD is for snow conditions and muddy secondary (back country roads).
Sounds like the 2WD is what you need. Why the RAV4? If mileage is a
consideration look at the Matrix which has about the same room.

You get a few more mpg with the Matrix but the rear visibility is horrible
and the instrument cluster is messed up IMO. Test drove a Matrix and knocked
that right off of the list. It's a cool looking vehicle from the outside
though.

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Default Re: RAV4 -- 4x4 vs 4x2 - 09-23-2006 , 10:57 PM



tanukiki wrote:
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"Wolfgang" <NOwolfXgang_dieterxSPAM (AT) NOXcox (DOT) netNOT> wrote in message
news5mRg.4170$Go3.1783 (AT) dukeread05 (DOT) ..
The RAV4 is not an off road vehicle --- underneath its Corolla based. The
4WD is for snow conditions and muddy secondary (back country roads).
Sounds like the 2WD is what you need. Why the RAV4? If mileage is a
consideration look at the Matrix which has about the same room.


You get a few more mpg with the Matrix but the rear visibility is horrible
and the instrument cluster is messed up IMO. Test drove a Matrix and knocked
that right off of the list. It's a cool looking vehicle from the outside
though.
I have to agree with you, test drove one too .. plus I don't even
really like the way it looks :-)

Personally though, I wish they hadn't made the new (2006+) RAV4 bigger,
I thought the size was just fine. I read that the RAV4 sold in Japan
and Europe is not larger like the US version.


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Default Re: RAV4 -- 4x4 vs 4x2 - 09-23-2006 , 10:59 PM



Wolfgang wrote:
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The RAV4 is not an off road vehicle --- underneath its Corolla based. The
4WD is for snow conditions and muddy secondary (back country roads). Sounds
like the 2WD is what you need. Why the RAV4? If mileage is a consideration
look at the Matrix which has about the same room.
I thought about it, and in spite of thinking it's somewhat an ugly
car I took a test drive and didn't really like it. Poor visibility
compared to my current car, and it felt cheap'ish .. the ride wasn't
nearly as nice as the RAV4 either :-)

Wish the RAV4 hadn't grown in size in 2006 .. I was happy with its
dimensions.



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Default Re: RAV4 -- 4x4 vs 4x2 - 09-23-2006 , 11:12 PM



"Esmail Bonakdarian" <ebonak-a (AT) t-hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

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tanukiki wrote:
"Wolfgang" <NOwolfXgang_dieterxSPAM (AT) NOXcox (DOT) netNOT> wrote in message
news5mRg.4170$Go3.1783 (AT) dukeread05 (DOT) ..
The RAV4 is not an off road vehicle --- underneath its Corolla based.
The 4WD is for snow conditions and muddy secondary (back country roads).
Sounds like the 2WD is what you need. Why the RAV4? If mileage is a
consideration look at the Matrix which has about the same room.


You get a few more mpg with the Matrix but the rear visibility is
horrible and the instrument cluster is messed up IMO. Test drove a Matrix
and knocked that right off of the list. It's a cool looking vehicle from
the outside though.

I have to agree with you, test drove one too .. plus I don't even
really like the way it looks :-)

Personally though, I wish they hadn't made the new (2006+) RAV4 bigger,
I thought the size was just fine. I read that the RAV4 sold in Japan
and Europe is not larger like the US version.
That's funny because I didn't consider the previous RAV4 over the 02 CRV I
bought because I thought it was too small inside. The only reason I looked
at the RAV4 this time was because it was bigger than the second gen RAV4s
(and I think the new 07 CRV is fugly!!!).

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Tanukiki (mom of 2 wonderful boys)




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Default Re: RAV4 -- 4x4 vs 4x2 - 09-24-2006 , 01:56 PM



This is not quite a RAV4 but I have an AWD 02 V-6 Highlander.

I live in No. Calif. and we do get some snow as well as I periodically
go to Reno during the winter. AWD, IMHO, is well worth the slight
cost/mileage penalty. Handling is great for a higher profile rig.
Yep its a Toyota so when it says "inflate tires to 35psi if you intend
to cruise over 100 mph (where legal)" you can be pretty sure its a
good drive system.

Ron


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Default Re: RAV4 -- 4x4 vs 4x2 - 09-24-2006 , 07:12 PM



tanukiki wrote:
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(and I think the new 07 CRV is fugly!!!).

:-)


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Default Re: RAV4 -- 4x4 vs 4x2 - 09-24-2006 , 07:19 PM



Bonehenge wrote:
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Most unpaved roads don't require 4WD either, as they have a perfectly
drivable with 2WD gravel or packed dirt surface.

Reasons to own 4WD:

- Muddy off-roading (construction sites, etc...)
- Boat launches
- Driving in snow, or on snow packed roads, on a regular basis
Well, I like 4 seasons, so I've lived in Iowa and Ohio which have
regularly very snowy winters .. but that's worked out ok with my
front-wheel drive Corolla Wagon over the years.

Quote:
- Deep sand driving (where you'll "air down")
- Delicate surface driving, for example, wet lawns.
- Resale value vs. 2WD version of vehicle (if you swap often). The
2WD version of certain vehicles can be genuine white elephants in many
areas.
- You want people who you don't know, and who don't really care, to
think you're an off-roader. <G
he he ...

Quote:
The way I look at it, if you've got to ask, you're probably a great
candidate for 2WD.
Yes, I think so too .. but if I end up moving to Colorado for a new
job, or up-up-up-state NY, I may reconsider.

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Don't forget that AWD is a different animal than 4WD and is much more
usable in daily driving. I totally loved my AWD, manual shifted,
Subaru on wet or snowy roads!
that sounds great. Actually, I was looking at a Subaru Legacy
Wagon .. manual! .. but the dealership around here was so bad and
rude, and I wasn't able to have another dealership find me the
particular car I gave up on it.

I enjoy driving manual, it's too bad the RAV4 doesn't come that way,
as most of the cars nowadays seem automatic only :-(

Esmail


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Default Re: RAV4 -- 4x4 vs 4x2 - 09-24-2006 , 07:22 PM



ron wrote:
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I live in No. Calif. and we do get some snow as well as I periodically
go to Reno during the winter. AWD, IMHO, is well worth the slight
cost/mileage penalty. Handling is great for a higher profile rig.
That's what I am trying to determine.

Quote:
Yep
its a Toyota so when it says "inflate tires to 35psi if you intend to
cruise over 100 mph (where legal)" you can be pretty sure its a good
drive system.
Ok, I'm a bit puzzled by this .. of course Toyota is great quality,
but I am missing the significance of the quote from the manual you
provide. This must be due to my lack of knowledge of 4WD vehicles.


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