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Re: Born suckers
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Re: Born suckers -
03-11-2007
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Noon-Air wrote: If the "American" companies offered what I wanted, without raping me in the wallet, I would have bought one of those. As it was, the *ONLY* truck that had what I needed was my Tundra..... and it was made in the USA. that's the irony of the op's dumb-ass trolling. japanese companies manufacture quality vehicles here, using locally sourced components. domestics manufacture crap, in mexico and wherever, and use chinese components. and they over-charge. and they cut corners on dangerous stuff like red rear turn signals. then they whine about losing market share! must be run by sociopaths. |
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"Don" <DonAdams (AT) GetSmart (DOT) com> wrote in message news:S1WIh.25171$S%2.8517 (AT) newsfe06 (DOT) phx... IF American car companies made the best cars and trucks on the market, the foreign car companies wouldn't be so popular in North America. Really simple.... "tizak" <tizak_4 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1173623329.893117.107170 (AT) 64g2000cwx (DOT) googlegroups.com... As free traders are we being taken for suckers, with the US and Canadian government acquiescing with countries actively acting in bad faith and trading unfairly. This is from a newspaper article ( http://www.canada.com/topics/news/na...3037a5&k=21038 ) Here is the take away from this article... "Hargrove said four million vehicles were shipped into North America last year, many from countries that don't allow foreign cars to be sold in their markets. He took special aim at Japan for tariff and other barriers. "One story is that if you buy an import, right away your income tax is audited," Hargrove said, adding that inspection processes are another way foreign vehicles are kept out of Japan." It is bad enough that the US guarantees their security at great cost while they build and ship cars from their countries (Japan, Korea specifically) while undermining the North American economy by blocking access to their markets. Where does fair trade become part of the purchasing decision? |
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If the "American" companies offered what I wanted, without raping me in the wallet, I would have bought one of those. As it was, the *ONLY* truck that had what I needed was my Tundra..... and it was made in the USA. |
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You really fell for that salesman's pitch it seems. The fact is the Tundra is only assembled in the US of mostly foreign parts and it costs thousands of dollars more to drive home than any similarly equipped GM, Ford or Dodge truck. That is why Ford sells 35% of the trucks sold in the US, GM 32% and Toyota a measly 5%  mike |
"costs thousands of dollars more to drive home than any similarly equipped
GM, Ford or Dodge truck."
The total cost to own anything is purchase price, maintenance costs and
residual value.
Very different than "cost to drive home"
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In article <BAeJh.2684$I56.125@trnddc06>, "Jeff" <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com wrote: Actually, a lot of people really like the Taurus. They bought the used ones with like 15k or 20k mi on them cheap. My friend bought a '96 Taurus SW used rental, which he just traded after 105k low cost miles. |
The Taurus was a decent car until the mileage approached 100k. Then
some lucky folks kept driving problem-free miles, while lots of others
became acquainted on a first name basis with their Ford mechanic. Few of
them made it passed 150k, so it was basically a good enough car to buy
or lease for three years.
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On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:03:49 -0400, Mike Hunter wrote: In other words you don't care if your Toyota breaks down, as long as you don't have to pay for the repair, right? LOL mike Gee, that sounds good to me. They do break down occasionally, and can be expensive to repair. But there's two things you have to realize here: |
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On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 05:55:15 +0000, Some O wrote: In article <IcdJh.40873$6P2.17747 (AT) newsfe16 (DOT) phx>, "JoeBillyBob" <JoeBillyBob (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: but I sure do miss that LHS... I still have my '95 Chrysler LH, which is my only car. Runs and looks like new. Mine had afew bumps and groans; one dent in the trunk, a leaky trans cooler line and leaky valve cover gaskets. Other than that, that car was COOL! And when I first got it, fuel economy was as good as my Scion! It started slipping the second year...I was only getting 23 MPG overall! |
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On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 05:59:28 +0000, Some O wrote: In article <BAeJh.2684$I56.125@trnddc06>, "Jeff" <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com wrote: Actually, a lot of people really like the Taurus. They bought the used ones with like 15k or 20k mi on them cheap. My friend bought a '96 Taurus SW used rental, which he just traded after 105k low cost miles. They were decent cars if you maintained them. I need a wagon or a van. I have a really nice Mazda 626 Winter beater, but I would like a Subaru AWD wagon, or a Toyota Corolla All-Trac, but a decent Sable or Taurus would make the list, too... My preferences are: Toyota, then Subaru, then Ford. Actually, Ford kinda ranks higher than Subaru, but I like AWD without having to drive an SUV... |
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In article <6ZzJh.4002$8o1.1007@trndny01>, Hachiroku �n�`�ç�N <Trueno (AT) AE86 (DOT) gts> wrote: Mine had afew bumps and groans; one dent in the trunk, a leaky trans cooler line and leaky valve cover gaskets. Other than that, that car was COOL! And when I first got it, fuel economy was as good as my Scion! It started slipping the second year...I was only getting 23 MPG overall! I just did a 1,000 km highway drive and my LH still gets 8.0 L/100 (US 29 mpg)at 65mph as it always has. It only has about 90K miles on it. I've treated the transmission well and it shifts as new. The 3.3L engine will probably continue as new forever. I've never had an engine that continues as new for so long. Neither the engine or engine have had any unusual maintenance problems. Even though I drive on winter roads to the ski hills the body is still excellent. Thank goodness it is standing up so well, because what is available in the car market doesn't impress me. I've set a 25% fuel mileage improvement as my objective. Some new models are interesting, but I'll give them two years to mature. I'm now trading maintenance for depreciation and don't know what I'll do with all the money I'm saving. |
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On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:58:03 -0400, Mike Hunter wrote: Yes, they certainly do break down occasionally, just as often as all others Who said that? I can count the breakdowns on five Toyotas on one hand, and two of those were on the same car because of my lack of understanding that timing belts wear out. One was because of using aftermarket ignition parts. So, all that's left is the differential that blew on my '74 Corolla 1200, still under warranty, and a leaky master clutch cylinder also covered under warranty. But I was still able to drive that car thanks to the synchros. Good thing it was a short ride to the dealer... Any other problems I have had, as minor as they were, were caused by lack of proper maintenance. That means a fuel pump that needed replacement because the car sat for two years with no fuel. All the rest has been routine maintenance, and beyond that there has been the exceptional wear of other parts. My 'Hachiroku' is twenty years old, and still has the original clutch, ball joints, tie rod ends and calipers. Oh, and it still has the original water pump, too. And valve cover gaskets. It's on it's SECOND battery. Original tires went 90,000 miles. Why do you think I buy Toyotas? |
us into talking about how great our cars are. I refuse to believe anyone is
that naive.
Natalie
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On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:58:03 -0400, Mike Hunter wrote: Yes, they certainly do break down occasionally, just as often as all others Who said that? I can count the breakdowns on five Toyotas on one hand, and two of those were on the same car because of my lack of understanding that timing belts wear out. One was because of using aftermarket ignition parts. So, all that's left is the differential that blew on my '74 Corolla 1200, still under warranty, and a leaky master clutch cylinder also covered under warranty. But I was still able to drive that car thanks to the synchros. Good thing it was a short ride to the dealer... Any other problems I have had, as minor as they were, were caused by lack of proper maintenance. That means a fuel pump that needed replacement because the car sat for two years with no fuel. All the rest has been routine maintenance, and beyond that there has been the exceptional wear of other parts. My 'Hachiroku' is twenty years old, and still has the original clutch, ball joints, tie rod ends and calipers. Oh, and it still has the original water pump, too. And valve cover gaskets. It's on it's SECOND battery. Original tires went 90,000 miles. Why do you think I buy Toyotas? |
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