Re: {OT} KKKristian KKKonservatives prove how delusional they are

#1

"Hang Bush" <no (AT) none (DOT) com> wrote

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"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2 (AT) mailcity (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Even if one DID find the bones of Jesus the Nazarene what would be the
big
deal? Would you no longer believe that Jesus arose dead? Hardly,.if one
is
a Christen they know you have no need of your earthly body.

mike

Right, if one has delusional faith based beliefs requiring no basis in
reality then you can believe anything you want. And of course delusional
beliefs are the stock in trade of the right wing KKKristian KKKonservative
KKKooks. Like, Bush is the best president ever, Iraq was responsible for
9/11, Iraq had WMDs, we just want to bring democracy to Iraq (honest,
that's the only reason we're there), the "intelligent design theory" soon
to be followed by the "flat earth theory", etc, etc, etc...

This personal attack is totally unfounded. As you may know, the Democratic
Party believes in civil rights. And one of the civil rights is freedom of
religion. If any of us has religious beliefs that are different, that is
perfectly fine.

Mike's conclusions are logical. One doesn't need the physical remains of
Christ to know he existed. The proof is in the Bible. If you believe in the
Bible, fine. If not, fine.

I don't think of this as an attack on Mike. It is an attack on free speech
and freedom of worship everywhere.

Jeff

#2

"Hang Bush" <no (AT) none (DOT) com> wrote

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"Jeff" <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:NTmJh.2736$I56.2211 (AT) trnddc06 (DOT) ..

This personal attack is totally unfounded. As you may know, the
Democratic Party believes in civil rights. And one of the civil rights is
freedom of religion. If any of us has religious beliefs that are
different, that is perfectly fine.

Mike's conclusions are logical. One doesn't need the physical remains of
Christ to know he existed. The proof is in the Bible. If you believe in
the Bible, fine. If not, fine.

I don't think of this as an attack on Mike. It is an attack on free
speech and freedom of worship everywhere.

Oh, sorry I forgot. Only religions kooks are allowed to attack others.

Yet, Mike didn't attack anyone in this thread.

Attacking others is not a correct behavior for anyone here.

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Religion has nothing to do with logic or reason. It's FAITH BASED!

That's what makes it religion, Einstein.

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The proof is in the Bible? Where?????? Using a 2000+ y/o collection of
myths, parables and fairy tales that have been edited and censored to suit
the dogma and politics of the day is now considered infallible,
irrefutable proof?????

No one ever claimed it was irrefutable proof. That's why it is called
"religion." Otherwise, it would be called "science."

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That's the sort of logic that shows how completely divorced from reality
the religious are.

I am quite well aware of the different between religion and science. Stephen
Jay Gould wrote an excellent book on it, which of course, I read.

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Listen, people can believe whatever they want but to pretend religion has
some basis in reality is laughable (and people who believe in reason have
a right to laugh at it) and to use those beliefs as a pretext for
oppression, hatred, murder and war is despicable.

There are two seperate issues. Belief in a religion is one thing.

Using it for oppression, hatred, murder or war is despicable.

However, I have yet to see Mike do that.

Jeff

BTW, I have been against the War in Iraq since before the US went in. While
I disagree with Mike on this and many other issues, I still respect him and
his views.

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These photos are only of a very tiny fraction of the thousands of Iraqi
Civilian Victims who have been terrorised, humiliated, injured, maimed
and killed through British and American bombing of civilian areas in
various cities of Iraq. Due to lack of security, independent reporters
could
not and still can not reach many areas to photograph and report the
atrocities. Several independent reporters and journalists were
deliberately bombed to prevent them reporting the atrocities.

Please note that some of these pictures are not suitable for small
children and those who have weak hearts.

http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm

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#3

It all come down to what one chooses to believe. If one choose to believe
that Jesus was the son of the true God and died for ones sins and one finds
what he choose was not true, what difference would it make when you die?

On the other hand if one chooses NOT to believe, it will make one HELL of a
difference, when you die.

mike

"One of the NGs resident kooks, known as Hang Bush, wrote" <no (AT) none (DOT) com>
wrote in message news:45f5f666$0$16317$88260bb3 (AT) free (DOT) teranews.com...

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"Jeff" <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:NTmJh.2736$I56.2211 (AT) trnddc06 (DOT) ..

This personal attack is totally unfounded. As you may know, the
Democratic Party believes in civil rights. And one of the civil rights is
freedom of religion. If any of us has religious beliefs that are
different, that is perfectly fine.

Mike's conclusions are logical. One doesn't need the physical remains of
Christ to know he existed. The proof is in the Bible. If you believe in
the Bible, fine. If not, fine.

I don't think of this as an attack on Mike. It is an attack on free
speech and freedom of worship everywhere.

Listen, people can believe whatever they want but to pretend religion has
some basis in reality is laughable

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