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Re: OT Saving the Earth: The Biodiesel Bus Blog -
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This stuff keeps getting better and better, LOL http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...07/04/21/AR200 70421 01385_pf.html And the Tiny: http://tinyurl.com/29qmc5 "Crow (4/19, Springfield, Tenn.): I have spent the better part of this tour trying to come up with easy ways for us all to become a part of the solution to global warming. Although my ideas are in the earliest stages of development, they are, in my mind, worth investigating. One of my favorites is in the area of forest conservation which we heavily rely on for oxygen. I propose a limitation be put on how many squares of toilet paper can be used in any one sitting. Now, I don't want to rob any law-abiding American of his or her God-given rights, but I think we are an industrious enough people that we can make it work with only one square per restroom visit, except, of course, on those pesky occasions where 2 to 3 could be required." |
themselves with water first then tried to dry up with the toilet paper.
Then we would be using excessive water of course.
These kooks are always trying to impose rules upon the general
population that they are never bound to themselves. I wonder if she
rations toilet paper within her own home.
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The reason there are so few female politicians is that it is too much
trouble to put makeup on two faces. ~ Maureen Murphy
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dbu.,, 4/23/2007,5:52:27 AM, wrote: This stuff keeps getting better and better, LOL http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...07/04/21/AR200 70421 01385_pf.html And the Tiny: http://tinyurl.com/29qmc5 "Crow (4/19, Springfield, Tenn.): I have spent the better part of this tour trying to come up with easy ways for us all to become a part of the solution to global warming. Although my ideas are in the earliest stages of development, they are, in my mind, worth investigating. One of my favorites is in the area of forest conservation which we heavily rely on for oxygen. I propose a limitation be put on how many squares of toilet paper can be used in any one sitting. Now, I don't want to rob any law-abiding American of his or her God-given rights, but I think we are an industrious enough people that we can make it work with only one square per restroom visit, except, of course, on those pesky occasions where 2 to 3 could be required." The only way one square of toilet paper would work is if people washed themselves with water first then tried to dry up with the toilet paper. Then we would be using excessive water of course. |
attachment for toilets. Unfortunately, this doesn't much good for all the
pooping that goes in offices, schools and public facilities where bidets are
less practical.
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These kooks are always trying to impose rules upon the general population that they are never bound to themselves. I wonder if she rations toilet paper within her own home. |
offset by increased usage of bleach for cleaning underwear or water for
taking more frequent showers.
More practical would be learning to use less toilet paper, like folding it
when using it so that the newly colored portions are folding inside and
using the appropriate amount of paper for the job.
Other ways of saving paper include using cloth napkins at home (although the
increased wash load might offset any environmental savings), giving kids the
back sides of paper to draw or write on instead of clean paper, and
improving the tax system so that far less paper is used in filing taxes. I
wish we could stop junk mail. If the junk mail were printed on toilet paper,
I would never need to buy toilet paper again.
Jeff
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-- "The reason there are so few female politicians is that it is too much trouble to put makeup on two faces." ~ Maureen Murphy |
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On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 12:42:06 +0000, Jeff wrote: "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:xn0f5agxf240lv9000 (AT) news (DOT) readfreenews.net... dbu.,, 4/23/2007,5:52:27 AM, wrote: This stuff keeps getting better and better, LOL Other ways of saving paper include using cloth napkins at home (although the increased wash load might offset any environmental savings), giving kids the back sides of paper to draw or write on instead of clean paper, and improving the tax system so that far less paper is used in filing taxes. I wish we could stop junk mail. If the junk mail were printed on toilet paper, I would never need to buy toilet paper again. Jeff -- "The reason there are so few female politicians is that it is too much trouble to put makeup on two faces." ~ Maureen Murphy Who gives a fart about TP? Most of it is made from recycled paper anyway! That's what I mean about Greenies: they don't investigate anything before they open their mouths! |
paper has to be processed, which requires energy to transport the paper to
the toilet paper plant, the paper has to remade and bleached, packaged, and
trucked to the store, and then taken home, and the used toilet paper ends up
in sewer plants, which also use energy. Packaging the paper also uses
plastic. So, even if toilet paper is 100% recycled, there are still
significant environmental costs that can be reduced by using less toilet
paper.
Most of the fiber in toilet paper is not from recycled paper:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12318915/ &
http://www.madehow.com/Volume-6/Toilet-Paper.html
Jeff
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In article <yQ1Xh.2080$nR1.403@trnddc06>, "Jeff" <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com wrote: "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:xn0f5agxf240lv9000 (AT) news (DOT) readfreenews.net... dbu.,, 4/23/2007,5:52:27 AM, wrote: This stuff keeps getting better and better, LOL http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...07/04/21/AR200 70421 01385_pf.html And the Tiny: http://tinyurl.com/29qmc5 "Crow (4/19, Springfield, Tenn.): I have spent the better part of this tour trying to come up with easy ways for us all to become a part of the solution to global warming. Although my ideas are in the earliest stages of development, they are, in my mind, worth investigating. One of my favorites is in the area of forest conservation which we heavily rely on for oxygen. I propose a limitation be put on how many squares of toilet paper can be used in any one sitting. Now, I don't want to rob any law-abiding American of his or her God-given rights, but I think we are an industrious enough people that we can make it work with only one square per restroom visit, except, of course, on those pesky occasions where 2 to 3 could be required." The only way one square of toilet paper would work is if people washed themselves with water first then tried to dry up with the toilet paper. Then we would be using excessive water of course. There are things that do this, called bidets. You can also get a bidet attachment for toilets. Unfortunately, this doesn't much good for all the pooping that goes in offices, schools and public facilities where bidets are less practical. These kooks are always trying to impose rules upon the general population that they are never bound to themselves. I wonder if she rations toilet paper within her own home. Her rations wouldn't work very well. For example, the paper saved would be offset by increased usage of bleach for cleaning underwear or water for taking more frequent showers. More practical would be learning to use less toilet paper, like folding it when using it so that the newly colored portions are folding inside and using the appropriate amount of paper for the job. Other ways of saving paper include using cloth napkins at home (although the increased wash load might offset any environmental savings), giving kids the back sides of paper to draw or write on instead of clean paper, and improving the tax system so that far less paper is used in filing taxes. I wish we could stop junk mail. If the junk mail were printed on toilet paper, I would never need to buy toilet paper again. Jeff I got a better idea. Just use your bare hands and then wipe THEM on your paints, |
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Saves paper, water and soap. You will be green with envy from your friends and co-workers. They will say, you dirty dog, why didn't we come up with that idea. You will be doing your part to save the earth. |
not waste it.
Jeff
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Then we would be using excessive water of course. There are things that do this, called bidets. You can also get a bidet attachment for toilets. Unfortunately, this doesn't much good for all the pooping that goes in offices, schools and public facilities where bidets are less practical. These kooks are always trying to impose rules upon the general population that they are never bound to themselves. I wonder if she rations toilet paper within her own home. Her rations wouldn't work very well. For example, the paper saved would be offset by increased usage of bleach for cleaning underwear or water for taking more frequent showers. More practical would be learning to use less toilet paper, like folding it when using it so that the newly colored portions are folding inside and using the appropriate amount of paper for the job. Other ways of saving paper include using cloth napkins at home (although the increased wash load might offset any environmental savings), giving kids the back sides of paper to draw or write on instead of clean paper, and improving the tax system so that far less paper is used in filing taxes. I wish we could stop junk mail. If the junk mail were printed on toilet paper, I would never need to buy toilet paper again. Jeff -- "The reason there are so few female politicians is that it is too much trouble to put makeup on two faces." ~ Maureen Murphy |
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On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 14:11:14 +0000, Jeff wrote: "Hachiroku γγγ*γ―" <Trueno (AT) AE86 (DOT) gts> wrote in message news:Q_1Xh.3091$Zm.393 (AT) trndny03 (DOT) .. On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 12:42:06 +0000, Jeff wrote: "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:xn0f5agxf240lv9000 (AT) news (DOT) readfreenews.net... dbu.,, 4/23/2007,5:52:27 AM, wrote: This stuff keeps getting better and better, LOL Other ways of saving paper include using cloth napkins at home (although the increased wash load might offset any environmental savings), giving kids the back sides of paper to draw or write on instead of clean paper, and improving the tax system so that far less paper is used in filing taxes. I wish we could stop junk mail. If the junk mail were printed on toilet paper, I would never need to buy toilet paper again. Jeff -- "The reason there are so few female politicians is that it is too much trouble to put makeup on two faces." ~ Maureen Murphy Who gives a fart about TP? Most of it is made from recycled paper anyway! That's what I mean about Greenies: they don't investigate anything before they open their mouths! Let's assume for the moment that toilet paper is made of recycled paper. The paper has to be processed, which requires energy to transport the paper to the toilet paper plant, the paper has to remade and bleached, packaged, and trucked to the store, and then taken home, and the used toilet paper ends up in sewer plants, which also use energy. Packaging the paper also uses plastic. So, even if toilet paper is 100% recycled, there are still significant environmental costs that can be reduced by using less toilet paper. Most of the fiber in toilet paper is not from recycled paper: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12318915/ & http://www.madehow.com/Volume-6/Toilet-Paper.html Jeff I could just dig a hole in my backyard and $h!t there, too. But, outhouses are illegal in Mass. So I guess I'll just keep using recycled TP. ALL the TP I buy says at least 70% recycled content. I believe the original post mentioned saving trees and generating oxygen. |
A lot of toilet paper is made of recycled content. Charmin and Cottonelle
have 0% recycled content.
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There's a funny thing about trees: you can always plant more. If every time you cut a tree you planted another, then the reduction in the amount of trees would be Zero. Of course, if every time you cut a tree you planted TWO, then there would be a net GAIN. Another thing the Greenies can't seem to understand. |
not planting as many trees as you think.
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And, you can make paper from a lot of things other than trees. Cotton is a good source of pulp, onion skins, rags and hemp to name a few. Of course, I wouldn't want to be wiping my delicate bum with Onion Skin or cotton paper, but I think you get the idea. |
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Greenies can't seem to think past the moment. |
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For all the gum flapping they do about the 'future', they don't seem to think about it too much. |
I see you haven't said anything about the costs to recycle paper. I guess
you haven't been able to think about that one. ;-)
It's cheaper to conserve rather than use and easier on the environment.
Jeff
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In article <vuOdnW8FB75EeLHbnZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d (AT) ptd (DOT) net>, "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2 (AT) mailcity (DOT) com> wrote: We just love you kooks to keep posting. You forgot about switching to plastic bags to save tons of paper. Not to worry, people are so fed up with all of the liberal newspapers that the circulation of every one of them is in the toilet. Soon most will be bankrupt and millions of tons of paper will no longer be produced.. The Earth will be saved from man. LOL mike You spoke the truth Mike. Our recycle container is quite large and it gets picked up every two weeks, it is plum full and most of it is printed newspaper media. When they raise the price of the paper it will be finished and I will be able to sell carbon credits to Gore. This is getting to be a major problem in my view. Between junk mail, |
dispensed with without reading, there is one helluva lot of junk being
manufactured and printed and disposed of, usually at high costs to everyone.
People who have experimented with saving their junk mail (catalogs, charity
appeals, grocery store ads, etc etc) come up with hundreds of pounds of the
crap by the end of a year. Think of this multiplied by all the homes that
receive the crap, and all the (millions?) of hours it takes letter carriers
to deliver the crap, and you begin to see the picture. and Newspapers are
even worse. The average joe only buys a car (or even thinks of buying a
car every couple of years (in my case a lot longer than that) but each day
he receives with his newspaper a section of car ads, which he promptly dumps
without reading. For me, the sports section is a complete waste, for
others it's the business/finance pages. and for others it's entertainment
news, theatre schedules etc. In my daily LA Times I receive a listing of
all the movie theatres and starting times for features in Southern
California, yet I never read any of them, since I'd never venture out of my
town, 100 miles from LA, to see a movie.
Going back to junk mail, 'they' say the average response to advertising in
general is 2 %. That means to me that 98 % of it is a total waste. It's
finding out WHICH 2 % is doing the buying. If there were a way to opt out
of mail advertising, newspaper ads and unnecessary sectons of the paper,
(the way do-not-call lists has worked for phone solicitation) I'd be on it
in a minute.
This has become a long rant, but I'll close with something I observed some
years ago. At my workplace, out front there are several newspaper vending
machines. I once saw a fellow buy a paper, strip out the sports section,
and throw the rest of the paper in a nearby trash basket.
To me it was like buying a sandwich so you could eat the pickle slice that
came with it!
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This stuff keeps getting better and better, LOL http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...07/04/21/AR200 70421 01385_pf.html And the Tiny: http://tinyurl.com/29qmc5 "Crow (4/19, Springfield, Tenn.): I have spent the better part of this tour trying to come up with easy ways for us all to become a part of the solution to global warming. Although my ideas are in the earliest stages of development, they are, in my mind, worth investigating. One of my favorites is in the area of forest conservation which we heavily rely on for oxygen. I propose a limitation be put on how many squares of toilet paper can be used in any one sitting. Now, I don't want to rob any law-abiding American of his or her God-given rights, but I think we are an industrious enough people that we can make it work with only one square per restroom visit, except, of course, on those pesky occasions where 2 to 3 could be required." |
A man stops into this little backwoods restaurant for lunch, and after
finishing his meal he inquires the way to the rest room. He was told
that it's around the back of the building. He heads through the back
door, finds the outhouse and takes a shit, only to discover there's no
toilet paper. But there is a sign on the wall that reads, 'Wipe
yourself with your finger, then insert the finger into this hole, and
your finger will be cleaned with great attention'
So the man wipes up and sticks his finger through the hole. On the
other side is standing a little boy holding a brick in either hand, who
claps them together at the sight of the finger poking through. The guy
screams in pain, yanks his hand back, and starts sucking on his
finger......
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This stuff keeps getting better and better, LOL http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...07/04/21/AR200 70421 01385_pf.html And the Tiny: http://tinyurl.com/29qmc5 "Crow (4/19, Springfield, Tenn.): I have spent the better part of this tour trying to come up with easy ways for us all to become a part of the solution to global warming. Although my ideas are in the earliest stages of development, they are, in my mind, worth investigating. One of my favorites is in the area of forest conservation which we heavily rely on for oxygen. I propose a limitation be put on how many squares of toilet paper can be used in any one sitting. Now, I don't want to rob any law-abiding American of his or her God-given rights, but I think we are an industrious enough people that we can make it work with only one square per restroom visit, except, of course, on those pesky occasions where 2 to 3 could be required." |
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