Actually most buyer settle for the vehicle they can afford to buy and
operate. The truth is buyers buy what they want and/or need. Ask any
salesman what is the last question a buyer usually asked before he signs on
the dotted line and he will tell you it is; "How much is my monthly
payment?"

Look at the US sales figures in the real world. There are plenty of
vehicles offered by domestics and imports that get great fuel mileage. Most
of the midget cars are sold by import brands. What vehicles sell the best?
NOT the imports, NOT the midget cars and NOT compact cars, from any
manufacturer.

The three top selling vehicle in the US are not even cars, they are trucks.
Obviously buyers in the US need or want trucks. Thee best selling car is
not a midget or small car, it is the mid sized Camry. Even the best selling
cars is out sold by the Ford F150, the best selling vehicle in the US for
thirty years, at a rate around double that of the Camry. Although Toyota
advertises they are the number one selling CAR brand in the US, GM actually
sells more cars than Toyota, it is just that they do no have the same brand
name on the grill. Like Toyota, Ford, Chrysler GMs best sellers after
trucks are not their smallest cars but their midsize and larger cars.

Naturally buyers want the highest fuel mileage they can get in the size and
type vehicle they choose to buy and they are willing to give up some power
and performance to get it. Eight out of ten Camrys sold have only the 4cy
engine. The Corolla 4cy actually performs better than the Camry, as well as
getting better fuel mileage and sells for thousands less, but apparently
Toyota buyers are choosing to buy the larger, safer, more expensive Camry
they want and need.

mike


"Jim Warman" <mechanic (AT) telusplanet (DOT) net> wrote

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2 (AT) mailcity (DOT) com> wrote


What kind of truck is the Camry? More Camries sold this year through march
than Rams. Ditto Accords. Same for last year.

Either the Camry is a new type of truck or you had better start getting your
facts strait.

Jeff

What's you point? Even if only two trucks out sold the Camry, how would
that effect the jist of what was posted, that being that buyers do not
choose to buy the midget or small cars that are currently available?


mike

"Jeff" <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2 (AT) mailcity (DOT) com> wrote

Point 1: The world is changing. Things are not the same in the car industry
as they were when you worked for Ford. Just because GM and Ford were #1 and
#2 in car sales for many years, that does not mean that they will ever be
again.

Point 2: The facts and numbers are readily avialable. It took me 1 minute to
double check this. And, that Camry and Accord outsold the Ram last year was
posted here a few times. To maintain your argument, you need to check your
facts.

Jeff

I'm not going to follow you in one of your circles. The fact is as I
pointed out, the best selling vehicles in the US are trucks, not cars and
the best selling cars are not small cars. Americans still buy millions more
domestics than imports. both cars and trucks. Toyota is millions of
vehicles away from being number one in the US. You however are free to
believe whatever you chose.


mike

"Jeff" <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2 (AT) mailcity (DOT) com> wrote

The fact is that you changed my post without indicating that fact. That is
intellectual dishonesty.

And, I think that getting your facts wrong, especially when they are so easy
to check, makes you look like an idiot.

Jeff

You free to believe whatever you choose, I could not care less. What you
choose to believe however will not change the fact that the best selling
vehicles in the US are trucks, not cars and the best selling cars are not
small cars. Americans still choose to buy millions more domestics than
imports. both cars and trucks. Toyota is millions of vehicles away from
being number one in the US here you believe it or not.

mike
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"Jeff" <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2 (AT) mailcity (DOT) com> wrote

Gee, you told us last time. You're like a broken record. And, old enough to
know what that means.

Don't have a cow man!

Jeff

It seems you seldom understand what is said the first time, because you are
too busy picking through everybody's posts for something with which you can
disagree, rather than digesting what was posted, thus requiring others to be
repeat things for you LOL


mike



"Jeff" <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2 (AT) mailcity (DOT) com> wrote

I am not disagreeing with an opinion. You get the facts wrong, and I am
pointing this out.

You've got to take more effective mind-reading classes, man. I understand
perfectly well what you are saying. What you offer is rarely worth the
effort of digesting.

I can tell you used to be a manager. You get the facts wrong, but somehow,
it is someone else's fault.

Don't have a cow man! (I said that last time, but you seem to have deleted
this - another intellectually dishonest move. I mean, gee, don't be so
stupid as to remove stuff from a post when I know darn well what I said, and
I can easily verify it.)

You're just so funny Mike.

Jeff