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Re: Vin plate info and TBDs -
04-18-2007
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glenior (AT) gazeta (DOT) pl proclaimed to alt.autos.toyota ... You can also try decode VIN at: http://www.autobaza.pl/ab/en/web/productaa0100 There is an automatic VIN decoder for any manufacturer. Amazing is that You enter only VIN and nothing more - this application recognize automatically all other information! Best Regards g It was close (well, actually correct but rather vague!) COUNTRY OF ORIGIN JAPAN MANUFACTURER TOYOTA BODY STYLE 5DR LIFTBACK (SUPRA - SPORT ROOF) ENGINE 3S-FE / 3S-GE / 3S-GTE / 5S-FE BODY STYLE CELICA / CARINA (MADE IN JAPAN) MODEL CELICA ST185 SEQUENCE NUMBER SERIAL NUMBER Actual values should have been: Body style - 3dr coupe (though it is a hatchback technically, it lifts the glass) Engine 3S-GTE Body name - celica Model is correct Sequence number - should have been 12112. Good link though. |
No it's not. VIN characters have very different meanings worldwide. Our
Polish friend is evidently either unaware of this, or doesn't care and
is just trying to get hits to his site.
Try this one:
http://www.free-vin-check.com/free_vin_check.htm
It's more US-oriented.
By the way, the Polack's assertion that the VIN reveals all is *wrong*.
Find the information stamped into the firewall. This location reveals
model, tranny and trim info not included in the VIN. Ray O may be able
to decipher this info for you.
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Tegger
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Mike Hunter proclaimed to alt.autos.toyota ... build date plate. No plate on anything door like on mine. And my local dealers wont even discuss any number other than my VIN. No information is given out, they wont even give out part numbers until you buy the part. |
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Try this one: http://www.free-vin-check.com/free_vin_check.htm It's more US-oriented. |
Or just www.carfax.com
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Tegger
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"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> proclaimed to alt.autos.toyota ... "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno (AT) AE86 (DOT) gts> wrote in message news:ZawVh.21927$Yh.9337 (AT) trndny03 (DOT) .. On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:10:41 -0500, Ray O wrote: But not the Diff. There must be SOMETHING in the VIN they use to determine at the dealer whether the car has Limited Slip or not, 'cause they keep asking me for it. No, LSD was on the list of options and not part of the model. Yeah. You had to 'order' it special. But I was SURE one of the letters indicated LSD. I remember seeing it a LONG time ago, that if one of the characters was "F" or "L" (can't remember) that it meant the car had LSD. I neede to know that for some reason back in the late 80's or early 90's, and that's what either a Toyota rep (by phone) or Svc Mgr told me, I can't recall now. Believe me, Ray, this has a LOT more to do with my 'fleeting' memory than it would ever have with trying to prove you wrong!!!  If you look up the VIN in Toyota's New Vehicle Systems or Service system (Toyota's in-house database) or in the Toyota Dealer Network (TDN) system, you can get the date of first use, wholesale dealer code, retail dealer code, retail date, production date, a list of warranty claims and SSC's performed on the vehicle, factory accessories, PIO's, color and trim codes, model number, invoice and MSRP, etc. I think the dealer people were asking you for the VIN so they could look it up on the TDN. The list of accessories would have included the LSD. For example, a Corolla GTS liftback might have AC, PS, LD, SR, CF, MG, and an audio upgrade like a cassette player (TC). IIRC, the VIN system that Toyota used at that time was: JT2AE86C9G1234567 for a Corolla GTS Coupe or JT2AW86L9G1234567 if it was a liftback. J: The first letter is country of origin (Japan) T: Manufacturer - Toyota 2: Passenger car (at the time, 3 was a special purpose vehicle (SUV), 4 was a truck, 5 was an incomplete vehicle A: Engine family, such as 4AG E: Chassis family, such as Corolla 86 Model - an 86 was a GTS C Body style- C was a coupe, L was aa liftback, E was a sedan, W was a wagon 9 combination calculation check digit - the answer to a math formula derived from the VIN as a way to tell if the VIN is valid. G Model Year all 1986 MY Toyotas had a G in this position next 7 characters - assembly plant and sequential serial number. -- Ray O (correct punctuation to reply) Incidentally Toyotas EPC (parts catalogue) doesnt have my VIN listed as having an LSD diff, but i do have one and its the 767 Axle code in the vin plate too. The EPC just shows Differential. -- J |
know the accessory codes for the vehicle.
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snipped By the way, the Polack's assertion that the VIN reveals all is *wrong*. Find the information stamped into the firewall. This location reveals model, tranny and trim info not included in the VIN. Ray O may be able to decipher this info for you. -- Tegger |
I never learned how to decipher the build plate on the firewall. (I skipped
District Parts Mgr and went straight to District Service Manager). I
remember the format being something like AE86L-BLMHQA or something like
that, and the alphabet soup after the series designation had the extra info.
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The axle code in not found in the VIN. Try looking on the firewall for the plate. If you can not find one on the car you will need to open the rear mike Toyota puts that info on the firewall plate. The door plate only has the |
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On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:25:47 -0500, Ray O wrote: "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno (AT) AE86 (DOT) gts> wrote in message news:ZawVh.21927$Yh.9337 (AT) trndny03 (DOT) .. On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:10:41 -0500, Ray O wrote: But not the Diff. There must be SOMETHING in the VIN they use to determine at the dealer whether the car has Limited Slip or not, 'cause they keep asking me for it. No, LSD was on the list of options and not part of the model. Yeah. You had to 'order' it special. But I was SURE one of the letters indicated LSD. I remember seeing it a LONG time ago, that if one of the characters was "F" or "L" (can't remember) that it meant the car had LSD. I neede to know that for some reason back in the late 80's or early 90's, and that's what either a Toyota rep (by phone) or Svc Mgr told me, I can't recall now. Believe me, Ray, this has a LOT more to do with my 'fleeting' memory than it would ever have with trying to prove you wrong!!! If you look up the VIN in Toyota's New Vehicle Systems or Service system (Toyota's in-house database) or in the Toyota Dealer Network (TDN) system, you can get the date of first use, wholesale dealer code, retail dealer code, retail date, production date, a list of warranty claims and SSC's performed on the vehicle, factory accessories, PIO's, color and trim codes, model number, invoice and MSRP, etc. I think the dealer people were asking you for the VIN so they could look it up on the TDN. The list of accessories would have included the LSD. For example, a Corolla GTS liftback might have AC, PS, LD, SR, CF, MG, and an audio upgrade like a cassette player (TC). IIRC, the VIN system that Toyota used at that time was: JT2AE86C9G1234567 for a Corolla GTS Coupe or JT2AW86L9G1234567 if it was a liftback. J: The first letter is country of origin (Japan) T: Manufacturer - Toyota 2: Passenger car (at the time, 3 was a special purpose vehicle (SUV), 4 was a truck, 5 was an incomplete vehicle A: Engine family, such as 4AG E: Chassis family, such as Corolla 86 Model - an 86 was a GTS C Body style- C was a coupe, L was aa liftback, E was a sedan, W was a wagon 9 combination calculation check digit - the answer to a math formula derived from the VIN as a way to tell if the VIN is valid. G Model Year all 1986 MY Toyotas had a G in this position next 7 characters - assembly plant and sequential serial number. I haven't looked at it for a while, but IIRC it is JT2AE86L6F0031334 From what I *DO* know, Japan, Toyota Corolla 86 (I was told the L meant LSD) Check Digit 1985 Supra Plants, Japan and then the sequence number. |
The "F" before the sequence number means that it is a 1985 model year.
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Funny thing is, it's called a Hachiroku (86), and everyone refers to the AE86, but the actual model number for the GTS was AE88! I remember this from looking at the plate under the hood. The VIN indicates an AE86, but the Model # on the plate is AE88. And I did see somewhere on the web the 86 is a Corolla, and the 88 is the GTS. The series indicator for the parts department is slightly different from the |
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So, actually, we've been wrong all this time, and I *should be "Hachihachi"! Agent Hachihachi! |
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"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> proclaimed to alt.autos.toyota ... Since you cannot tell whether a vehicle has an LSD by the VIN, you have to know the accessory codes for the vehicle. -- Ray O (correct punctuation to reply) But you would have thought they would have a database of the parts that went onto each car. Since they can tell me the colour, the trim and many of the other optional extras etc etc But the Diff isnt listed differently IIRC. I'll check in a minute  -- J |
are installed in each car, basically the information that is on the window
label when the car is sold new. If LSD was an extra cost option, then it
would be in the database. I believe that the database is only available to
dealers for 10 model years.
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No it's not.VINcharacters have very different meanings worldwide. |
recognize different decoding depend of country of origin, model and
even model year etc.
For Toyota there is 19 ways to decode VIN number in autobaza system.
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Our Polish friend is evidently either unaware of this, or doesn't care and is just trying to get hits to his site. |
all car model than autobaza.pl I'll be thankful.
Best Regards
G
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That said, its not easy to produce a foolproof answer to everything. -- |
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