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Re: Why? WHY can't I buy a green battery???? -
09-16-2006
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Back in the day, Toyotas came with 'green' batteries...no name on them, not even Toyota. Just gree with a black top... My Corolla GT-S came with a Panasonic. Now, I *LOVE* Panasonic stuff just like I love Toyotas...except for their TVs, Car Stereos....and their Car batteries. About 6-7 months after I bought the Hachiroku (which was about 18 months for the car) a cell shorted and spewed battery acid all over the hood. I had to scrub the whole underside of the hood with Baking Soda, and sprayed some around the engine bay for good measure. Now, in 1980, I bought a new CorollA SR-5 with one of those green batteries. In 1985 I got into the car one day...dead battery. I looked at the cells and there was about 1.5" of water in each cell. I filled them (from the tap...I was late for work) but no avail. I went to work and got a ride home. I was going to roll the car down the slight incline to try to start it and just for laughs, I turned the key. It fired right up!!!!! No charger, no nothing but adding water 8 hours earlier! I said screw the battery and drove the car for another YEAR with the same battery, this time keeping an eye on the water level in the cells. I parked the Scion Monday after work, and we had two good days, so I drove the Supra. Thursday morning I was running late and had to jump the Scion! Today I drove out to where I bought the car (50 miles) to pick up my reg and have it inspected. "Oh, by the way, I parked it 2 days and had to jump it. Can you check the charging system?" Later on, he told me that the 1 year old Panasonic battery had...a bad cell!!!! And, they didn't have a new one in stock...I have to go back next week... WHY!!!! can't I buy a Green Battery?!?!?!?! BTW, I later learned they were made by Yuasa, and there is not a good way to get one here in the US, unless it comes with a New Car... |
Now we've got one of those sealed spiral Optima batteries in it.
Charles of Schaumburg
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WHY!!!! can't I buy a Green Battery?!?!?!?! BTW, I later learned they were made by Yuasa, and there is not a good way to get one here in the US, unless it comes with a New Car... |
The weight of a battery makes it impractical to ship it from Japan.
If you live in warm climate, get a "premium" South battery from one of the
various brands sold in the US. South batteries are built to with a more
robust construction, although the robust construction slightly reduces the
space available for the plates and the cold-cranking power of South
batteries is slightly less than North batteries. But South batteries are
more resistant to physical damage and damage from heat.
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Back in the day, Toyotas came with 'green' batteries...no name on them, not even Toyota. Just gree with a black top... My Corolla GT-S came with a Panasonic. Now, I *LOVE* Panasonic stuff just like I love Toyotas...except for their TVs, Car Stereos....and their Car batteries. About 6-7 months after I bought the Hachiroku (which was about 18 months for the car) a cell shorted and spewed battery acid all over the hood. I had to scrub the whole underside of the hood with Baking Soda, and sprayed some around the engine bay for good measure. Now, in 1980, I bought a new CorollA SR-5 with one of those green batteries. In 1985 I got into the car one day...dead battery. I looked at the cells and there was about 1.5" of water in each cell. I filled them (from the tap...I was late for work) but no avail. I went to work and got a ride home. I was going to roll the car down the slight incline to try to start it and just for laughs, I turned the key. It fired right up!!!!! No charger, no nothing but adding water 8 hours earlier! I said screw the battery and drove the car for another YEAR with the same battery, this time keeping an eye on the water level in the cells. I parked the Scion Monday after work, and we had two good days, so I drove the Supra. Thursday morning I was running late and had to jump the Scion! Today I drove out to where I bought the car (50 miles) to pick up my reg and have it inspected. "Oh, by the way, I parked it 2 days and had to jump it. Can you check the charging system?" Later on, he told me that the 1 year old Panasonic battery had...a bad cell!!!! And, they didn't have a new one in stock...I have to go back next week... WHY!!!! can't I buy a Green Battery?!?!?!?! BTW, I later learned they were made by Yuasa, and there is not a good way to get one here in the US, unless it comes with a New Car... |
(Panasonic brand) and Yuasa.
The dealers carry Exide batteries for warranty replacements - they seem to
be pretty good batteries.
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Ray O
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Back in the day, Toyotas came with 'green' batteries...no name on them, not even Toyota. Just gree with a black top... My Corolla GT-S came with a Panasonic. Now, I *LOVE* Panasonic stuff just like I love Toyotas...except for their TVs, Car Stereos....and their Car batteries. About 6-7 months after I bought the Hachiroku (which was about 18 months for the car) a cell shorted and spewed battery acid all over the hood. I had to scrub the whole underside of the hood with Baking Soda, and sprayed some around the engine bay for good measure. Now, in 1980, I bought a new CorollA SR-5 with one of those green batteries. In 1985 I got into the car one day...dead battery. I looked at the cells and there was about 1.5" of water in each cell. I filled them (from the tap...I was late for work) but no avail. I went to work and got a ride home. I was going to roll the car down the slight incline to try to start it and just for laughs, I turned the key. It fired right up!!!!! No charger, no nothing but adding water 8 hours earlier! I said screw the battery and drove the car for another YEAR with the same battery, this time keeping an eye on the water level in the cells. I parked the Scion Monday after work, and we had two good days, so I drove the Supra. Thursday morning I was running late and had to jump the Scion! Today I drove out to where I bought the car (50 miles) to pick up my reg and have it inspected. "Oh, by the way, I parked it 2 days and had to jump it. Can you check the charging system?" Later on, he told me that the 1 year old Panasonic battery had...a bad cell!!!! And, they didn't have a new one in stock...I have to go back next week... WHY!!!! can't I buy a Green Battery?!?!?!?! BTW, I later learned they were made by Yuasa, and there is not a good way to get one here in the US, unless it comes with a New Car... |
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On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 20:47:44 -0600, Mark A wrote: "Hachiroku" <Trueno (AT) ae86 (DOT) gts> wrote in message news:V80Pg.71$x11.56 (AT) trndny02 (DOT) .. WHY!!!! can't I buy a Green Battery?!?!?!?! BTW, I later learned they were made by Yuasa, and there is not a good way to get one here in the US, unless it comes with a New Car... The weight of a battery makes it impractical to ship it from Japan. If you live in warm climate, get a "premium" South battery from one of the various brands sold in the US. South batteries are built to with a more robust construction, although the robust construction slightly reduces the space available for the plates and the cold-cranking power of South batteries is slightly less than North batteries. But South batteries are more resistant to physical damage and damage from heat. They're replacing it. I think maybe they knew the battery was on the way out... |
much, and will make you feel kindly toward them.
Not a bad investment on their part...
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Scott in Florida
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 16:02:26 GMT, Hachiroku <Hachiroku (AT) ae86 (DOT) gts wrote: On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 20:47:44 -0600, Mark A wrote: "Hachiroku" <Trueno (AT) ae86 (DOT) gts> wrote in message news:V80Pg.71$x11.56 (AT) trndny02 (DOT) .. WHY!!!! can't I buy a Green Battery?!?!?!?! BTW, I later learned they were made by Yuasa, and there is not a good way to get one here in the US, unless it comes with a New Car... The weight of a battery makes it impractical to ship it from Japan. If you live in warm climate, get a "premium" South battery from one of the various brands sold in the US. South batteries are built to with a more robust construction, although the robust construction slightly reduces the space available for the plates and the cold-cranking power of South batteries is slightly less than North batteries. But South batteries are more resistant to physical damage and damage from heat. They're replacing it. I think maybe they knew the battery was on the way out... At least it looks like you have a decent dealer. That won't cost them much, and will make you feel kindly toward them. Not a bad investment on their part... -- Scott in Florida |
months old.
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Ray O
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 16:48:41 -0500, Ray O wrote: "Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant (AT) mindspring (DOT) net> wrote in message news:gvcrg2hn1cdhhabvdgpuo9gkurg567dh0o (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 16:02:26 GMT, Hachiroku <Hachiroku (AT) ae86 (DOT) gts wrote: On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 20:47:44 -0600, Mark A wrote: "Hachiroku" <Trueno (AT) ae86 (DOT) gts> wrote in message news:V80Pg.71$x11.56 (AT) trndny02 (DOT) .. WHY!!!! can't I buy a Green Battery?!?!?!?! BTW, I later learned they were made by Yuasa, and there is not a good way to get one here in the US, unless it comes with a New Car... The weight of a battery makes it impractical to ship it from Japan. If you live in warm climate, get a "premium" South battery from one of the various brands sold in the US. South batteries are built to with a more robust construction, although the robust construction slightly reduces the space available for the plates and the cold-cranking power of South batteries is slightly less than North batteries. But South batteries are more resistant to physical damage and damage from heat. They're replacing it. I think maybe they knew the battery was on the way out... At least it looks like you have a decent dealer. That won't cost them much, and will make you feel kindly toward them. Not a bad investment on their part... -- Scott in Florida The battery won't cost the dealer anything if the car is still under 12 months old. It's 17, but under 12,000 miles. And it has a 3 year, 36,000 mile warranty. (Remainder of the Factory warranty...) |
pro-rated for the remainder for 3/36.
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Ray O
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 20:46:26 +0000, Scott in Florida wrote: On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 16:02:26 GMT, Hachiroku <Hachiroku (AT) ae86 (DOT) gts wrote: On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 20:47:44 -0600, Mark A wrote: "Hachiroku" <Trueno (AT) ae86 (DOT) gts> wrote in message news:V80Pg.71$x11.56 (AT) trndny02 (DOT) .. WHY!!!! can't I buy a Green Battery?!?!?!?! BTW, I later learned they were made by Yuasa, and there is not a good way to get one here in the US, unless it comes with a New Car... The weight of a battery makes it impractical to ship it from Japan. If you live in warm climate, get a "premium" South battery from one of the various brands sold in the US. South batteries are built to with a more robust construction, although the robust construction slightly reduces the space available for the plates and the cold-cranking power of South batteries is slightly less than North batteries. But South batteries are more resistant to physical damage and damage from heat. They're replacing it. I think maybe they knew the battery was on the way out... At least it looks like you have a decent dealer. That won't cost them much, and will make you feel kindly toward them. Not a bad investment on their part... One of the largest dealers in Mass. 350 units a month! About 20-30 miles north of Worcester. I know you know where THAT is!! Hmmm. I think the owner of the store in Fitchburg has changed since I called |
Wilbraham. Is Fitchburg owned by Herb C?
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 20:46:26 +0000, Scott in Florida wrote: On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 16:02:26 GMT, Hachiroku <Hachiroku (AT) ae86 (DOT) gts wrote: On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 20:47:44 -0600, Mark A wrote: "Hachiroku" <Trueno (AT) ae86 (DOT) gts> wrote in message news:V80Pg.71$x11.56 (AT) trndny02 (DOT) .. WHY!!!! can't I buy a Green Battery?!?!?!?! BTW, I later learned they were made by Yuasa, and there is not a good way to get one here in the US, unless it comes with a New Car... The weight of a battery makes it impractical to ship it from Japan. If you live in warm climate, get a "premium" South battery from one of the various brands sold in the US. South batteries are built to with a more robust construction, although the robust construction slightly reduces the space available for the plates and the cold-cranking power of South batteries is slightly less than North batteries. But South batteries are more resistant to physical damage and damage from heat. They're replacing it. I think maybe they knew the battery was on the way out... At least it looks like you have a decent dealer. That won't cost them much, and will make you feel kindly toward them. Not a bad investment on their part... One of the largest dealers in Mass. 350 units a month! About 20-30 miles north of Worcester. I know you know where THAT is!! |
On Route 9?
I really don't know the area that well. I know how to get to the
in/out laws house and back on the Mass Pike. That is about it...LOL
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Back in the day, Toyotas came with 'green' batteries...no name on them, not even Toyota. Just gree with a black top... My Corolla GT-S came with a Panasonic. Now, I *LOVE* Panasonic stuff just like I love Toyotas...except for their TVs, Car Stereos....and their Car batteries. About 6-7 months after I bought the Hachiroku (which was about 18 months for the car) a cell shorted and spewed battery acid all over the hood. I had to scrub the whole underside of the hood with Baking Soda, and sprayed some around the engine bay for good measure. Now, in 1980, I bought a new CorollA SR-5 with one of those green batteries. In 1985 I got into the car one day...dead battery. I looked at the cells and there was about 1.5" of water in each cell. I filled them (from the tap...I was late for work) but no avail. I went to work and got a ride home. I was going to roll the car down the slight incline to try to start it and just for laughs, I turned the key. It fired right up!!!!! No charger, no nothing but adding water 8 hours earlier! I said screw the battery and drove the car for another YEAR with the same battery, this time keeping an eye on the water level in the cells. I parked the Scion Monday after work, and we had two good days, so I drove the Supra. Thursday morning I was running late and had to jump the Scion! Today I drove out to where I bought the car (50 miles) to pick up my reg and have it inspected. "Oh, by the way, I parked it 2 days and had to jump it. Can you check the charging system?" Later on, he told me that the 1 year old Panasonic battery had...a bad cell!!!! And, they didn't have a new one in stock...I have to go back next week... WHY!!!! can't I buy a Green Battery?!?!?!?! BTW, I later learned they were made by Yuasa, and there is not a good way to get one here in the US, unless it comes with a New Car... |
I've caught dealers carrying oem batteries which are Panasonics too.
Some carry other brands.
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