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Default Re: Is there an intermediate kickdown in overdrive in '89 Cressida? - 11-23-2005 , 11:27 PM







"Gord Beaman" <gord (AT) islandtelecom (DOT) com> wrote

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It's not intermediate. It really is just going back into plain-old
third gear.

It's definitely not going out of OD into 3rd, it's far more subtle than
that. I believe other responders have probably id'd it correctly as
related
to the torque converter.


Rather than trying to decide whose wild guess is correct or incorrect, it
is
very easy to tell for yourself.

Pushing the overdrive button will drop the transmission down to 3rd gear.


Ok Ray, so the 'overdrive' is merely 'another higher sped' gear
in the transmission is it?...has nothing to do (directly) with
the torque converter?
Overdrive is just 4th gear. The sequence is 1 to 2; 2 to 3; TC lockup in
3rd; TC unlock and shift to 4th (A.K.A. overdrive), TC lockup in 4th.
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If you want to unlock the torque converter while at a steady cruise, tap
the
brake pedal just enough to make the brake lights come on. Having the
brake
lights come on will trick the transmission ECU into unlocking the torque
converter. You should see about 100 to 200 RPM increase with the torque
converter unlocked.
Since 4th gear is an overdrive gear, the transmission output shaft is
turning more slowly than the engine so it takes a lot more torque to
accelerate. To accomplish this, the TC unlocks to allow the TC to develop
torque multiplication, kind of like twisting a rubber band, and if more
torque is needed, then it downshifts to 3rd or 2nd, depending on vehicle
speed and throttle position.
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Ok, thanks...
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Default Re: Is there an intermediate kickdown in overdrive in '89 Cressida? - 11-23-2005 , 11:41 PM







"Ray O" <rokigawa (AT) tristarassociatesDOT (DOT) com> wrote


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Rather than trying to decide whose wild guess is correct or incorrect, it
is
very easy to tell for yourself.

Pushing the overdrive button will drop the transmission down to 3rd gear.
Right. If you go back to my original post I mentioned trying this and that
it was comparatively very different than what I'm experiencing.




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Default Re: Is there an intermediate kickdown in overdrive in '89 Cressida? - 11-23-2005 , 11:59 PM



Hi Gord,
Thanks for the christmas tree. It is a beauty as usual. Mayor
Menino is going the politically correct route this year by calling it a
holiday tree. Maybe you folks should think about stopping the
tradition.
Unlocking the torque converter was a feature of the Ultramatic
transmission the 1950 Packard I once owned. The "bathtub".

Ron


Gord Beaman wrote:
Quote:
"Ray O" <rokigawa (AT) tristarassociatesDOT (DOT) com> wrote:


"Doc" <docsavage20 (AT) xhotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:Ow5hf.4678$wf.4107 (AT) newsread3 (DOT) news.atl.earthlink.net...

"Gary L. Burnore" <gburnore (AT) databasix (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:dm2jbj$8d9$1 (AT) blackhelicopter (DOT) databasix.com...

It's not intermediate. It really is just going back into plain-old
third gear.

It's definitely not going out of OD into 3rd, it's far more subtle than
that. I believe other responders have probably id'd it correctly as
related
to the torque converter.


Rather than trying to decide whose wild guess is correct or incorrect, it is
very easy to tell for yourself.

Pushing the overdrive button will drop the transmission down to 3rd gear.


Ok Ray, so the 'overdrive' is merely 'another higher sped' gear
in the transmission is it?...has nothing to do (directly) with
the torque converter?

If you want to unlock the torque converter while at a steady cruise, tap the
brake pedal just enough to make the brake lights come on. Having the brake
lights come on will trick the transmission ECU into unlocking the torque
converter. You should see about 100 to 200 RPM increase with the torque
converter unlocked.

Ok, thanks...
--

-Gord.
(use gordon in email)


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Default Re: Is there an intermediate kickdown in overdrive in '89 Cressida? - 11-24-2005 , 09:00 AM



We don't have yuppie white chicks in Boston. We have empowered young
female type persons who are politically correct and use their
empowerment to make this world safe from the demonic neo conservative
,beaver unfriendly type conservatives whether we like it or not.
Minority rules.


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