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munki
 
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Default Running lean on bank 1 - 09-03-2009 , 04:06 PM






mk4 golf 1.6s 16v 2001

I have been getting and error code (forgot the code at work) that says
engine running too lean on bank 1.

What exactly is the problem ?

From googling I was told its a knackered lambda or a knackered maf ? ... or
am I barking up the wrong tree.

The mechanic said just whip out the lambda and clean it with brake cleaner ?
is that a good idea or ...

Advice welcomed as always

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Default Re: Running lean on bank 1 - 09-03-2009 , 04:41 PM






"munki" <none (AT) none (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
mk4 golf 1.6s 16v 2001

I have been getting and error code (forgot the code at work) that says
engine running too lean on bank 1.

What exactly is the problem ?

From googling I was told its a knackered lambda or a knackered maf ? ...
or am I barking up the wrong tree.

The mechanic said just whip out the lambda and clean it with brake cleaner
? is that a good idea or ...

Advice welcomed as always
Probably better to clean it in an ultrasonic cleaner like the four I bought
in Aldi a few years ago for £15 each. I figured at that price it'd be handy
to have a few spares for gifts to friends and in case one went wrong. Just
the job for sorting out blocked injectors, dirty jewellery etc. I'm about to
do my own lambda sensor before the next MOT is due so if you want I'll do
yours too and post it back.
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Chris Bartram
 
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Default Re: Running lean on bank 1 - 09-03-2009 , 04:47 PM



munki wrote:
Quote:
mk4 golf 1.6s 16v 2001

I have been getting and error code (forgot the code at work) that says
engine running too lean on bank 1.

What exactly is the problem ?

From googling I was told its a knackered lambda or a knackered maf ? ... or
am I barking up the wrong tree.

The mechanic said just whip out the lambda and clean it with brake cleaner ?
is that a good idea or ...

Advice welcomed as always


What was the car scanned with? If it wasn't VAG-COM/VCDS or a dealer
computer I'd get it rescanned with one of those as they may reveal more
info thana generic OBD-II scanner. If you ask on one of the VAG forums
someone will usually do it for you for a pint or two.

http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/dtc-comparison.html

Have a look here for suggested causes:

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/index.php/16555/P0171/000369

The best way to test a MAF is with VCDS, but a quick and dirty check is
to unplug it. The car should run much worse.

http://www.ross-tech.net/vag-com/advertising/DiagnosingA_MAF_TechTip.pdf

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Default Re: Running lean on bank 1 - 09-03-2009 , 04:58 PM



"Chris Bartram" <news (AT) delete-me (DOT) piglet-net.net> wrote

Quote:
munki wrote:
mk4 golf 1.6s 16v 2001

I have been getting and error code (forgot the code at work) that says
engine running too lean on bank 1.

What exactly is the problem ?

From googling I was told its a knackered lambda or a knackered maf ? ...
or am I barking up the wrong tree.

The mechanic said just whip out the lambda and clean it with brake
cleaner ? is that a good idea or ...

Advice welcomed as always
What was the car scanned with? If it wasn't VAG-COM/VCDS or a dealer
computer I'd get it rescanned with one of those as they may reveal more
info thana generic OBD-II scanner. If you ask on one of the VAG forums
someone will usually do it for you for a pint or two.
It was scanned with a sealey VAG scanner I bought..

Quote:
http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/dtc-comparison.html

Have a look here for suggested causes:

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/index.php/16555/P0171/000369

The best way to test a MAF is with VCDS, but a quick and dirty check is to
unplug it. The car should run much worse.

http://www.ross-tech.net/vag-com/advertising/DiagnosingA_MAF_TechTip.pdf

Thanks for the links. I'm going to give them a good read now.

Also been suggested it could be a VAC leak, and to open the bonet and have
a listen for hissing sounds. First job of the morning

Then see where the MAF is located on the 1.6 16v 01 .. searches for haynes.

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Default Re: Running lean on bank 1 - 09-03-2009 , 04:59 PM



"Dave Baker" <Null (AT) null (DOT) com> wrote

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"munki" <none (AT) none (DOT) com> wrote

mk4 golf 1.6s 16v 2001

I have been getting and error code (forgot the code at work) that says
engine running too lean on bank 1.

What exactly is the problem ?

From googling I was told its a knackered lambda or a knackered maf ? ...
or am I barking up the wrong tree.

The mechanic said just whip out the lambda and clean it with brake
cleaner ? is that a good idea or ...

Advice welcomed as always

Probably better to clean it in an ultrasonic cleaner like the four I
bought in Aldi a few years ago for £15 each. I figured at that price it'd
be handy to have a few spares for gifts to friends and in case one went
wrong. Just the job for sorting out blocked injectors, dirty jewellery
etc. I'm about to do my own lambda sensor before the next MOT is due so if
you want I'll do yours too and post it back.

Ahh, that does sound a better idea and less crude. That is a very generous
offer I may take you up on and will drop a few extra pennies in for a few
pints *thumbs up*

I shall have a look for VAC leaks first and then remove the lambda

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munki
 
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Default Re: Running lean on bank 1 - 09-03-2009 , 05:03 PM



"Chris Bartram" <news (AT) delete-me (DOT) piglet-net.net> wrote

Quote:
munki wrote:
mk4 golf 1.6s 16v 2001

I have been getting and error code (forgot the code at work) that says
engine running too lean on bank 1.

What exactly is the problem ?

From googling I was told its a knackered lambda or a knackered maf ? ...
or am I barking up the wrong tree.

The mechanic said just whip out the lambda and clean it with brake
cleaner ? is that a good idea or ...

Advice welcomed as always
What was the car scanned with? If it wasn't VAG-COM/VCDS or a dealer
computer I'd get it rescanned with one of those as they may reveal more
info thana generic OBD-II scanner. If you ask on one of the VAG forums
someone will usually do it for you for a pint or two.

http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/dtc-comparison.html

Have a look here for suggested causes:

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/index.php/16555/P0171/000369

The best way to test a MAF is with VCDS, but a quick and dirty check is to
unplug it. The car should run much worse.

http://www.ross-tech.net/vag-com/advertising/DiagnosingA_MAF_TechTip.pdf

Forgot to mention a few months back a warning light came up on the dash
engine management one, and I scanned it there and then ... well parked first
lol ... and it gave a code out for a faulty lambda sensor. I erased it
forgetting which sensor it was and waited to see if it came back which it
didn't so assumed as was ok. Now within the last 12 months I changed the
front pre cat lambda as it was faulty so I can only guess it was the other
one, but possibly it could be the new one gone again ? (I do use mainly
supermarket fuel, which I know is not the best grade)

But as I say no warning lights for the lambda came back. Just this new one
about the engine running lean. Also worth mentioning I think is a slightly
eggy stink but not noticeable now, or maybe I have gotten used to it. Well I
do usesually drop the windows, perhaps not in this heavy rain were getting
down south.

Thats about as much detailed information as I have to help.

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Duncan Wood
 
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Default Re: Running lean on bank 1 - 09-03-2009 , 05:05 PM



On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 21:58:44 +0100, munki <none (AT) none (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
"Chris Bartram" <news (AT) delete-me (DOT) piglet-net.net> wrote in message
news:h7pa0o$t7f$1 (AT) news (DOT) eternal-september.org...
munki wrote:
mk4 golf 1.6s 16v 2001

I have been getting and error code (forgot the code at work) that says
engine running too lean on bank 1.

What exactly is the problem ?

From googling I was told its a knackered lambda or a knackered maf ?
...
or am I barking up the wrong tree.

The mechanic said just whip out the lambda and clean it with brake
cleaner ? is that a good idea or ...

Advice welcomed as always
What was the car scanned with? If it wasn't VAG-COM/VCDS or a dealer
computer I'd get it rescanned with one of those as they may reveal more
info thana generic OBD-II scanner. If you ask on one of the VAG forums
someone will usually do it for you for a pint or two.

It was scanned with a sealey VAG scanner I bought..

http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/dtc-comparison.html

Have a look here for suggested causes:

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/index.php/16555/P0171/000369

The best way to test a MAF is with VCDS, but a quick and dirty check is
to
unplug it. The car should run much worse.

http://www.ross-tech.net/vag-com/advertising/DiagnosingA_MAF_TechTip.pdf


Thanks for the links. I'm going to give them a good read now.

Also been suggested it could be a VAC leak, and to open the bonet and
have
a listen for hissing sounds. First job of the morning

Then see where the MAF is located on the 1.6 16v 01 .. searches for
haynes.


Obviously you woulkdn't search for "Erwin Golf" or "bentley golf manual"
Torrent as that would be bad.

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Dave Baker
 
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Default Re: Running lean on bank 1 - 09-03-2009 , 05:06 PM



"munki" <none (AT) none (DOT) com> wrote

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"Dave Baker" <Null (AT) null (DOT) com> wrote in message
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"munki" <none (AT) none (DOT) com> wrote

mk4 golf 1.6s 16v 2001

I have been getting and error code (forgot the code at work) that says
engine running too lean on bank 1.

What exactly is the problem ?

From googling I was told its a knackered lambda or a knackered maf ? ...
or am I barking up the wrong tree.

The mechanic said just whip out the lambda and clean it with brake
cleaner ? is that a good idea or ...

Advice welcomed as always

Probably better to clean it in an ultrasonic cleaner like the four I
bought in Aldi a few years ago for £15 each. I figured at that price it'd
be handy to have a few spares for gifts to friends and in case one went
wrong. Just the job for sorting out blocked injectors, dirty jewellery
etc. I'm about to do my own lambda sensor before the next MOT is due so
if you want I'll do yours too and post it back.


Ahh, that does sound a better idea and less crude. That is a very generous
offer I may take you up on and will drop a few extra pennies in for a few
pints *thumbs up*

I shall have a look for VAC leaks first and then remove the lambda
No pennies needed. Someone on Usenet I've never met helped me out with some
ram to upgrade my old pc and to balance my karma I need to do a favour for
someone in return.
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Dave Baker

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Default Re: Running lean on bank 1 - 09-03-2009 , 05:15 PM



munki wrote:
Quote:
"Chris Bartram" <news (AT) delete-me (DOT) piglet-net.net> wrote in message
news:h7pa0o$t7f$1 (AT) news (DOT) eternal-september.org...
munki wrote:
mk4 golf 1.6s 16v 2001

I have been getting and error code (forgot the code at work) that
says engine running too lean on bank 1.

What exactly is the problem ?

From googling I was told its a knackered lambda or a knackered maf
? ... or am I barking up the wrong tree.

The mechanic said just whip out the lambda and clean it with brake
cleaner ? is that a good idea or ...

Advice welcomed as always
What was the car scanned with? If it wasn't VAG-COM/VCDS or a dealer
computer I'd get it rescanned with one of those as they may reveal
more info thana generic OBD-II scanner. If you ask on one of the VAG
forums someone will usually do it for you for a pint or two.

http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/dtc-comparison.html

Have a look here for suggested causes:

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/index.php/16555/P0171/000369

The best way to test a MAF is with VCDS, but a quick and dirty check
is to unplug it. The car should run much worse.

http://www.ross-tech.net/vag-com/advertising/DiagnosingA_MAF_TechTip.pdf


Forgot to mention a few months back a warning light came up on the
dash engine management one, and I scanned it there and then ... well
parked first lol ... and it gave a code out for a faulty lambda
sensor. I erased it forgetting which sensor it was and waited to see
if it came back which it didn't so assumed as was ok. Now within the
last 12 months I changed the front pre cat lambda as it was faulty so
I can only guess it was the other one, but possibly it could be the
new one gone again ? (I do use mainly supermarket fuel, which I know
is not the best grade)
But as I say no warning lights for the lambda came back. Just this
new one about the engine running lean. Also worth mentioning I think
is a slightly eggy stink but not noticeable now, or maybe I have
gotten used to it. Well I do usesually drop the windows, perhaps not
in this heavy rain were getting down south.

Thats about as much detailed information as I have to help.
egg smell is often attributed to a dying cat

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