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Default 1987 Golf injectors?!?! - 03-09-2007 , 12:50 PM






I just bought a 1987 golf 1.8 gas, and the thing will not start
anymore, it starts then if you start giving it gas it dies. I just had
one of the gas lines fixed since the previous owner pinched it or
something. It had the symptoms of no gas line pressure (whenever you
hit inclines and such and such). Now that I had the line the car wont
start completely , I think the car might of dirty injectors since the
mechanic ran it out of gas ( gas guage needs to be rewired). Any
ideas? I personally know the mechanic so fuckin' me over is entirely
out of the question.


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Default Re: 1987 Golf injectors?!?! - 03-09-2007 , 12:56 PM






On Mar 9, 1:50 pm, "the_lower_class_brat"
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I just bought a 1987 golf 1.8 gas, and the thing will not start
anymore, it starts then if you start giving it gas it dies. I just had
one of the gas lines fixed since the previous owner pinched it or
something. It had the symptoms of no gas line pressure (whenever you
hit inclines and such and such). Now that I had the line the car wont
start completely , I think the car might of dirty injectors since the
mechanic ran it out of gas ( gas guage needs to be rewired). Any
ideas? I personally know the mechanic so fuckin' me over is entirely
out of the question.
You have done the obvious? Checked the fuel pressure? Fuel filter?
Tank screen? Good strong spark?

Will it idle if you start it? Or just sputter until it chokes?

Not quite enough information for other than shotgun suggestions.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA



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Default Re: 1987 Golf injectors?!?! - 03-09-2007 , 05:33 PM



On Mar 9, 1:56 pm, "p... (AT) aol (DOT) com" <p... (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote:
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On Mar 9, 1:50 pm, "the_lower_class_brat"

the_lower_class_b... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:
I just bought a 1987 golf 1.8 gas, and the thing will not start
anymore, it starts then if you start giving it gas it dies. I just had
one of the gas lines fixed since the previous owner pinched it or
something. It had the symptoms of no gas line pressure (whenever you
hit inclines and such and such). Now that I had the line the car wont
start completely , I think the car might of dirty injectors since the
mechanic ran it out of gas ( gas guage needs to be rewired). Any
ideas? I personally know the mechanic so fuckin' me over is entirely
out of the question.

You have done the obvious? Checked the fuel pressure? Fuel filter?
Tank screen? Good strong spark?

Will it idle if you start it? Or just sputter until it chokes?

Not quite enough information for other than shotgun suggestions.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA
It starts and dies basically as if the injectors were rediculousy
dirty, no fuel pressure, or a really weak spark.



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Default Re: 1987 Golf injectors?!?! - 03-09-2007 , 06:23 PM



On Mar 9, 6:33 pm, "the_lower_class_brat"
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On Mar 9, 1:56 pm, "p... (AT) aol (DOT) com" <p... (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote:





On Mar 9, 1:50 pm, "the_lower_class_brat"

the_lower_class_b... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:
I just bought a 1987 golf 1.8 gas, and the thing will not start
anymore, it starts then if you start giving it gas it dies. I just had
one of the gas lines fixed since the previous owner pinched it or
something. It had the symptoms of no gas line pressure (whenever you
hit inclines and such and such). Now that I had the line the car wont
start completely , I think the car might of dirty injectors since the
mechanic ran it out of gas ( gas guage needs to be rewired). Any
ideas? I personally know the mechanic so fuckin' me over is entirely
out of the question.

You have done the obvious? Checked the fuel pressure? Fuel filter?
Tank screen? Good strong spark?

Will it idle if you start it? Or just sputter until it chokes?

Not quite enough information for other than shotgun suggestions.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

It starts and dies basically as if the injectors were rediculousy
dirty, no fuel pressure, or a really weak spark.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
"... as if..."

Have you checked the fuel pressure? Have you checked the spark? Have
you checked anything or is it that you want those here to gaze into
their crystal balls and pull the singular solution out of the air (or
elsewhere more towards their nether regions)?

Start by attemting to start it at night and see if there are any
sparks playing about the wires. Pull one wire and see what color spark
it makes to a good ground. Put a pressure gauge on the fuel rail and
see what you get... and so forth. Help us out a bit so we can help
you.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA



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Default Re: 1987 Golf injectors?!?! - 03-09-2007 , 07:03 PM



On 9 Mar 2007 15:33:57 -0800, "the_lower_class_brat" <the_lower_class_brat (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>
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It starts and dies basically as if the injectors were rediculousy
dirty, no fuel pressure, or a really weak spark.
for starters replace the fuel filter or get a gauge to check the fuel
pressure


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Default Re: 1987 Golf injectors?!?! - 03-10-2007 , 01:04 AM




the_lower_class_brat wrote:
Quote:
I just bought a 1987 golf 1.8 gas, and the thing will not start
anymore, it starts then if you start giving it gas it dies. I just had
one of the gas lines fixed since the previous owner pinched it or
something. It had the symptoms of no gas line pressure (whenever you
hit inclines and such and such). Now that I had the line the car wont
start completely , I think the car might of dirty injectors since the
mechanic ran it out of gas ( gas guage needs to be rewired). Any
ideas? I personally know the mechanic so fuckin' me over is entirely
out of the question.
I had those symptoms on my '87 GTi (1.8 l, 8V, CIS-e). It was due to a
faulty main fuel pump (as opposed to the in-tank transfer fuel pump). A
fuel pressure test will tell. The main fuel pump is expensive, so you
wouldn't want to just throw parts at the problem.


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Default Re: 1987 Golf injectors?!?! - 03-10-2007 , 09:46 AM



Make sure that you don't have a massive intake leak.
Make sure that the intake manifold to fuel distributor boot is on tightly
with nothing missing from it.

If the spark is weak the plug electrodes should be wet and dark when you
pull them out.

I will ASSuME that you put enough fuel in the tank.
Did the mechanic run it out of gas or was there only a little gas in the
tank because most of it leaked out?
Check the fuel pressure!



"the_lower_class_brat" <the_lower_class_brat (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
I just bought a 1987 golf 1.8 gas, and the thing will not start
anymore, it starts then if you start giving it gas it dies. I just had
one of the gas lines fixed since the previous owner pinched it or
something. It had the symptoms of no gas line pressure (whenever you
hit inclines and such and such). Now that I had the line the car wont
start completely , I think the car might of dirty injectors since the
mechanic ran it out of gas ( gas guage needs to be rewired). Any
ideas? I personally know the mechanic so XXXXX me over is entirely
out of the question.




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Default Re: 1987 Golf injectors?!?! - 03-10-2007 , 11:02 AM



On Mar 10, 10:46 am, "dave AKA vwdoc1" <vwd... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
Make sure that you don't have a massive intake leak.
Make sure that the intake manifold to fuel distributor boot is on tightly
with nothing missing from it.

If the spark is weak the plug electrodes should be wet and dark when you
pull them out.

I will ASSuME that you put enough fuel in the tank.
Did the mechanic run it out of gas or was there only a little gas in the
tank because most of it leaked out?
Check the fuel pressure!

"the_lower_class_brat" <the_lower_class_b... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message

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I just bought a 1987 golf 1.8 gas, and the thing will not start
anymore, it starts then if you start giving it gas it dies. I just had
one of the gas lines fixed since the previous owner pinched it or
something. It had the symptoms of no gas line pressure (whenever you
hit inclines and such and such). Now that I had the line the car wont
start completely , I think the car might of dirty injectors since the
mechanic ran it out of gas ( gas guage needs to be rewired). Any
ideas? I personally know the mechanic so XXXXX me over is entirely
out of the question.
Its at the shop. I assume he checked the fuel pressure when he did the
lines, I have a couple spare main fuel pumps (dont ask). That was my
first guess since the previous owner said it was that, but \ also most
things he said turned out to be lies, so I told the mechanic to check
out the pump. And as for testing I can't really give you that much of
a detailed description of the problem since its been at the shop for
about the past week and a half, and at this point Im ready to take
matters into my own hands, but I can't even get the car off the lot.




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Default Re: 1987 Golf injectors?!?! - 03-10-2007 , 04:24 PM



I worked on one VW that would not run. After testing this and that I found
out that.......
Someone had switched the lines going to the fuel distributor. :-o
Just a thought!



"the_lower_class_brat" <the_lower_class_brat (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
On Mar 10, 10:46 am, "dave AKA vwdoc1" <vwd... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:
Make sure that you don't have a massive intake leak.
Make sure that the intake manifold to fuel distributor boot is on tightly
with nothing missing from it.

If the spark is weak the plug electrodes should be wet and dark when you
pull them out.

I will ASSuME that you put enough fuel in the tank.
Did the mechanic run it out of gas or was there only a little gas in the
tank because most of it leaked out?
Check the fuel pressure!

"the_lower_class_brat" <the_lower_class_b... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in
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I just bought a 1987 golf 1.8 gas, and the thing will not start
anymore, it starts then if you start giving it gas it dies. I just had
one of the gas lines fixed since the previous owner pinched it or
something. It had the symptoms of no gas line pressure (whenever you
hit inclines and such and such). Now that I had the line the car wont
start completely , I think the car might of dirty injectors since the
mechanic ran it out of gas ( gas guage needs to be rewired). Any
ideas? I personally know the mechanic so XXXXX me over is entirely
out of the question.

Its at the shop. I assume he checked the fuel pressure when he did the
lines, I have a couple spare main fuel pumps (dont ask). That was my
first guess since the previous owner said it was that, but \ also most
things he said turned out to be lies, so I told the mechanic to check
out the pump. And as for testing I can't really give you that much of
a detailed description of the problem since its been at the shop for
about the past week and a half, and at this point Im ready to take
matters into my own hands, but I can't even get the car off the lot.





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Default Re: 1987 Golf injectors?!?! - 03-11-2007 , 01:21 AM



dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
Quote:
I worked on one VW that would not run. After testing this and that I found
out that.......
Someone had switched the lines going to the fuel distributor. :-o
Just a thought!
If the car has CIS (K-Jetronic) or CIS-e (KE-Jetronic) injection,
swapping the lines to the injectors from the fuel distributor does not
matter, there is continuous flow in all four lines (the "C" in CIS
stands for continuous). The cold start injector is different, it only
turns on briefly during starting.


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On Mar 10, 10:46 am, "dave AKA vwdoc1" <vwd... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:
Make sure that you don't have a massive intake leak.
Make sure that the intake manifold to fuel distributor boot is on tightly
with nothing missing from it.

If the spark is weak the plug electrodes should be wet and dark when you
pull them out.

I will ASSuME that you put enough fuel in the tank.
Did the mechanic run it out of gas or was there only a little gas in the
tank because most of it leaked out?
Check the fuel pressure!

"the_lower_class_brat" <the_lower_class_b... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in
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news:1173466252.867249.136240 (AT) v33g2000cwv (DOT) googlegroups.com...

I just bought a 1987 golf 1.8 gas, and the thing will not start
anymore, it starts then if you start giving it gas it dies. I just had
one of the gas lines fixed since the previous owner pinched it or
something. It had the symptoms of no gas line pressure (whenever you
hit inclines and such and such). Now that I had the line the car wont
start completely , I think the car might of dirty injectors since the
mechanic ran it out of gas ( gas guage needs to be rewired). Any
ideas? I personally know the mechanic so XXXXX me over is entirely
out of the question.

Its at the shop. I assume he checked the fuel pressure when he did the
lines, I have a couple spare main fuel pumps (dont ask). That was my
first guess since the previous owner said it was that, but \ also most
things he said turned out to be lies, so I told the mechanic to check
out the pump. And as for testing I can't really give you that much of
a detailed description of the problem since its been at the shop for
about the past week and a half, and at this point Im ready to take
matters into my own hands, but I can't even get the car off the lot.



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