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Default DIY Replacing Window regulator - 04-08-2007 , 01:36 AM






Hello,

I am trying to replace the window regualtor on my 98 GTI VR6.I managed
to removed the door panel however i am not sure how to lower the
window ( electric) so i can remove the regulator. Bently manual shows
the instruction on the hand crank version only not the electric.
The window is stuck all the way up.
The other thing how would you know if the problem is from the motor or
the regulator?

Thanks in advance


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Default Re: DIY Replacing Window regulator - 04-08-2007 , 07:59 AM






If you could you disconnect the motor from the controller then it's easy.
Apply power to it with reverse polarity.

SFC

"Rocky" <karim.Salha (AT) gmail (DOT) com> schreef in bericht
news:1176014184.315106.290610 (AT) p77g2000hsh (DOT) googlegroups.com...
Quote:
Hello,

I am trying to replace the window regualtor on my 98 GTI VR6.I managed
to removed the door panel however i am not sure how to lower the
window ( electric) so i can remove the regulator. Bently manual shows
the instruction on the hand crank version only not the electric.
The window is stuck all the way up.
The other thing how would you know if the problem is from the motor or
the regulator?

Thanks in advance




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Default Re: DIY Replacing Window regulator - 04-08-2007 , 08:03 AM



does this help
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1015107

Disconnect the motor and see if it works. AFAIK The regulator, or it's
clips, usually breaks and the window falls down.

And a lot of times the wires between the door and the post seem to crack and
break.

"Rocky" <karim.Salha (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Hello,

I am trying to replace the window regualtor on my 98 GTI VR6.I managed
to removed the door panel however i am not sure how to lower the
window ( electric) so i can remove the regulator. Bently manual shows
the instruction on the hand crank version only not the electric.
The window is stuck all the way up.
The other thing how would you know if the problem is from the motor or
the regulator?

Thanks in advance




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Default Re: DIY Replacing Window regulator - 04-08-2007 , 12:09 PM





Thanks for the link it gave me an idea but mine is a 98 gti it's the
MK3 and the door layout looks different. What confuses me in the
Bentley manual is when they say to lower the glass window all the way
down but they don't tell you how to lower it if its an electric
window. I am trying to be sure footed when i take the door apart. Any
ideas or tips if you have done this before would be appreciated.



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Default Re: DIY Replacing Window regulator - 04-08-2007 , 02:18 PM



Try this link then to see if it looks like yours!
http://www.ohiovw.com/tools/regulator/ (possibly 1993-1999 early?)

I disagree with the ripping of the inside plastic! Try to save it or
install new plastic making sure it is sealed well at the bottom at least.

Did you remove all regulator bolts to see if you could lower glass enough to
remove it's fastener?

Quote:
does this help
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1015107 (1999 late)

Disconnect the motor and see if it works. AFAIK The regulator, or it's
clips, usually breaks and the window falls down.

And a lot of times the wires between the door and the post seem to crack
and break.

"Rocky" <karim.Salha (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:1176014184.315106.290610 (AT) p77g2000hsh (DOT) googlegroups.com...
Hello,

I am trying to replace the window regualtor on my 98 GTI VR6.I managed
to removed the door panel however i am not sure how to lower the
window ( electric) so i can remove the regulator. Bently manual shows
the instruction on the hand crank version only not the electric.
The window is stuck all the way up.
The other thing how would you know if the problem is from the motor or
the regulator?



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Rocky
 
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Default Re: DIY Replacing Window regulator - 04-08-2007 , 03:31 PM



On Apr 8, 12:18 pm, "dave AKA vwdoc1" <vwd... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
Try this link then to see if it looks like yours!http://www.ohiovw.com/tools/regulator/ (possibly 1993-1999 early?)

I disagree with the ripping of the inside plastic! Try to save it or
install new plastic making sure it is sealed well at the bottom at least.

Did you remove all regulator bolts to see if you could lower glass enough to
remove it's fastener?

does this help
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1015107 (1999 late)

Disconnect the motor and see if it works. AFAIK The regulator, or it's
clips, usually breaks and the window falls down.

And a lot of times the wires between the door and the post seem to crack
and break.

"Rocky" <karim.Sa... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:1176014184.315106.290610 (AT) p77g2000hsh (DOT) googlegroups.com...
Hello,

I am trying to replace the window regualtor on my 98 GTI VR6.I managed
to removed the door panel however i am not sure how to lower the
window ( electric) so i can remove the regulator. Bently manual shows
the instruction on the hand crank version only not the electric.
The window is stuck all the way up.
The other thing how would you know if the problem is from the motor or
the regulator?
Great, It looks like mine. mine is the passenger side. So it should me
the same procedure. Should i buy the motor/regulator assembly or just
the regulator?
Thanks again



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Default Re: DIY Replacing Window regulator - 04-08-2007 , 05:38 PM



In article <1176064266.529023.147390 (AT) e65g2000hsc (DOT) googlegroups.com>,
karim.Salha (AT) gmail (DOT) com says...
Quote:
On Apr 8, 12:18 pm, "dave AKA vwdoc1" <vwd... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:
Try this link then to see if it looks like yours!http://www.ohiovw.com/tools/regulator/ (possibly 1993-1999 early?)

Great, It looks like mine. mine is the passenger side. So it should me
the same procedure. Should i buy the motor/regulator assembly or just
the regulator?
Normally the motor is fine. Most often it's either the wiring harness
or the cables & plastic bits of the regulator. Check the wires
carefully, especially in the door hinge area. If the alarm's been
acting oddly, this is probably where the problem is.

To get the window 'loose' so you can unbolt the clamps, get between the
regulator and door skin with a good pair of cutters. Tape the window up
first so you don't have to buy one of those too Cut the cable. The
window should move freely. If not, cut the other 'side' of the cable.

I was going to 'salvage' pieces off an old regulator when I replaced my
last one. There was nothing to save other than the stuff that never
breaks!

Mark
'95 Jetta GLS


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Default Re: DIY Replacing Window regulator - 04-08-2007 , 11:02 PM



I agree with Mark...........it is usually not the motor but also I usually
hear the motor run when I try to raise/lower the window. You did not report
that you heard the motor working.

I still suspect the wiring to the door is faulty. 8^o
If you plug the window regulator/motor to the other door and it
works................wiring.
If you plug it in and it doesn't
work.............................................. .......................motor.

I suggest you purchase an aftermarket kit that comes with both motor and
regulator. It will look slightly different but performs well and generally
costs about the same as either the regulator or motor from the dealer! ;-)

I probably have some spare used motors laying around here somewhere if you
need one.
--
later,
dave
(One out of many daves)


"Mark Randol" <mrandolmunged (AT) austin (DOT) rr.com> wrote

Quote:
In article <1176064266.529023.147390 (AT) e65g2000hsc (DOT) googlegroups.com>,
karim.Salha (AT) gmail (DOT) com says...
On Apr 8, 12:18 pm, "dave AKA vwdoc1" <vwd... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:
Try this link then to see if it looks like
yours!http://www.ohiovw.com/tools/regulator/ (possibly 1993-1999
early?)

Great, It looks like mine. mine is the passenger side. So it should me
the same procedure. Should i buy the motor/regulator assembly or just
the regulator?

Normally the motor is fine. Most often it's either the wiring harness
or the cables & plastic bits of the regulator. Check the wires
carefully, especially in the door hinge area. If the alarm's been
acting oddly, this is probably where the problem is.

To get the window 'loose' so you can unbolt the clamps, get between the
regulator and door skin with a good pair of cutters. Tape the window up
first so you don't have to buy one of those too Cut the cable. The
window should move freely. If not, cut the other 'side' of the cable.

I was going to 'salvage' pieces off an old regulator when I replaced my
last one. There was nothing to save other than the stuff that never
breaks!

Mark
'95 Jetta GLS



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Default Re: DIY Replacing Window regulator - 04-09-2007 , 07:39 AM



In article <iViSh.1070$2v1.514 (AT) newssvr14 (DOT) news.prodigy.net>, vwdoc1
@hotmail.com says...
Quote:
I agree with Mark...........it is usually not the motor but also I usually
hear the motor run when I try to raise/lower the window. You did not report
that you heard the motor working.
If the regulator is jammed, at least on my '95, you won't hear it spin
either. I think there's a 'don't cut the kid's arm off' circuit that
disables the motor when the load is too high. Just a guess tho'.

Quote:
I still suspect the wiring to the door is faulty. 8^o
Easiest way is to grab a harness from the dealer, about $90 last I
checked, plug it in bypassing the harness and see if it works. Don't
bother taking the old one out, just open the door, pop off the covers
and plug it in. IIRC be VERY careful not to run the window all the way
down. I think the motor is on the outside of the window when it comes
down.

Quote:
I suggest you purchase an aftermarket kit that comes with both motor and
regulator.
I haven't seen this. Where can you get 'em?

Mark
'95 Jetta GLS


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Default Re: DIY Replacing Window regulator - 04-09-2007 , 11:42 AM



There is a lot of places that sells motor +regulator. But the cheapest
that i found so far is around $360 as oppose to $40 for only the
regulator. Any tip on a cheaper place from previous experience?


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