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Matt B.
 
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Default Re: Jetta 2.0 vs. 1.8T - 05-07-2004 , 01:04 AM






"Steve Grauman" <oneactor1 (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote

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I liked the way the old Vanagons drive. Rear-drive with the weight over
the
drive wheels. The Synchro models were cool too. But the Vanagon was
crazily
underpowered. I've seen a couple with 2.0 litre, turbocharged Subaru
motors in
them but it'd pain me to put a Japanese motor in my VW.
Someone on forums.vwvortex.com put a WRX motor in their Vanagon. Sounds
like it kicks butt!
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1252551




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Steve Grauman
 
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Default Re: Jetta 2.0 vs. 1.8T - 05-07-2004 , 02:11 AM






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Someone on forums.vwvortex.com put a WRX motor in their Vanagon.
Yea, the "Vanagon S", there's an article about it on the site. Nice to have a
Vanagon with real-world power, but no Subie-powered VW's for me. I'd probably
replace the 2.5 litre Audi-sourced engine the Vanagons ran with Audi's 2.2
litre turbo-5. Either that, or see if I can fit a 24-valve VR6 in there. Do it
up with Schrick cams and intake manifold, a custom exhaust and a GIAC chip and
you'll be making around 230Hp with a flat powerband and no turbo lag.


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Tony Bad
 
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Default Re: Jetta 2.0 vs. 1.8T - 05-07-2004 , 09:14 AM




"Steve Grauman" <oneactor1 (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote

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Someone on forums.vwvortex.com put a WRX motor in their Vanagon.

Yea, the "Vanagon S", there's an article about it on the site. Nice to have a
Vanagon with real-world power, but no Subie-powered VW's for me. I'd probably
replace the 2.5 litre Audi-sourced engine the Vanagons ran with Audi's 2.2
litre turbo-5. Either that, or see if I can fit a 24-valve VR6 in there. Do it
up with Schrick cams and intake manifold, a custom exhaust and a GIAC chip and
you'll be making around 230Hp with a flat powerband and no turbo lag.
Hey, if you feel bad about dropping a Subaru engine in a VW, you should know
that the basic design for the Subaru flat 4 was a copy of the engine from a
Lloyd, which was a German car company in the 40's and 50's. I also recall
reading that some of the tooling for the early Subaru engines was bought from
NSU, another German car company. All of these German car companies had produced
air-cooled engines similar to the VW's.

So...a Subaru engine is really not that far removed from a VW. I had a few older
Subaru's, and while they were watercooled, the similarities between them and the
aircooled flat 4 VW engines is striking.

Not to mention...that WRX powered VW looks like FUN!!!

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Tony Bad

02 Jetta Wagon
01 Eurovan MV
91 Jetta 1.6 Diesel
86 Jetta
79 Rabbit 1.5 Diesel (semi-retired for now)
Schwinn Continental 10 Speed
Radio Flyer Pedal Car (my daughter made me add this)




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Steve Grauman
 
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Default Re: Jetta 2.0 vs. 1.8T - 05-07-2004 , 06:05 PM



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Hey, if you feel bad about dropping a Subaru engine in a VW, you should know
that the basic design for the Subaru flat 4 was a copy of the engine from a
Lloyd....
Yea...I've heard most of that stuff. There's just something about Subarus that
continually dissapoints me. I test drove the WRX before I bought my GTi, and
despite being quicker 0-60 and having AWD, I couldn't get into it. Same with
the Forester XT I recently drove, which is ridiculously fast for a vehicle of
that size and type, but I just came away feeling indifferent. The Turbo version
of the Baja looks interesting though. I'm amazed that they aren't selling more
of them to compact-truck buyers. As indifferent as I am about Subies, I can't
believe anyone would buy a 6-cylinder Ford Ranger or Chevrolet S10 for about
the same money as a Baja Turbo. In any case, I'd love a 90' or 91' Vanagon
Synchro to rebuild (I want it to be CLEAN, I'm really anal about the smallest
imperfections) with a 24-valve VR6 or an Audi 2.2 Turbo 5. I wonder how hard
it'd be to get a Carrera 3.6 motor back there....


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Rob Guenther
 
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Default Re: Jetta 2.0 vs. 1.8T - 05-09-2004 , 09:32 PM



And NSU was bought by VW ;-) So there you go, good connection.
"Tony Bad" <SpamSpamSpam (AT) bakedbeans (DOT) spam> wrote

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"Steve Grauman" <oneactor1 (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:20040507021141.19642.00000376 (AT) mb-m03 (DOT) aol.com...
Someone on forums.vwvortex.com put a WRX motor in their Vanagon.

Yea, the "Vanagon S", there's an article about it on the site. Nice to
have a
Vanagon with real-world power, but no Subie-powered VW's for me. I'd
probably
replace the 2.5 litre Audi-sourced engine the Vanagons ran with Audi's
2.2
litre turbo-5. Either that, or see if I can fit a 24-valve VR6 in there.
Do it
up with Schrick cams and intake manifold, a custom exhaust and a GIAC
chip and
you'll be making around 230Hp with a flat powerband and no turbo lag.

Hey, if you feel bad about dropping a Subaru engine in a VW, you should
know
that the basic design for the Subaru flat 4 was a copy of the engine from
a
Lloyd, which was a German car company in the 40's and 50's. I also recall
reading that some of the tooling for the early Subaru engines was bought
from
NSU, another German car company. All of these German car companies had
produced
air-cooled engines similar to the VW's.

So...a Subaru engine is really not that far removed from a VW. I had a few
older
Subaru's, and while they were watercooled, the similarities between them
and the
aircooled flat 4 VW engines is striking.

Not to mention...that WRX powered VW looks like FUN!!!

--
Tony Bad

02 Jetta Wagon
01 Eurovan MV
91 Jetta 1.6 Diesel
86 Jetta
79 Rabbit 1.5 Diesel (semi-retired for now)
Schwinn Continental 10 Speed
Radio Flyer Pedal Car (my daughter made me add this)





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