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Default Oil consumption for 2.0L 8V - solved? - 03-11-2007 , 01:59 AM






I am contemplating the purchase of a new 2007 "City Golf" this summer. This
car is equipped with the been-around-for-ages 2.0L 8V engine. In and around
the year 2000, these engines had a reputation for being oil users - 1/2 to 1
litre of oil every 1000 miles was considered "normal". Is this still the
case, or did VW make changes to rings or valve seals to reduce oil usage to
levels that are "normal" for other makes of car?



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Default Re: Oil consumption for 2.0L 8V - solved? - 03-11-2007 , 10:44 AM






My 2003 Golf with 2.0 uses no oil at all between 5,000 mile oil changes. I
think they have fixed this problem.
TL


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I am contemplating the purchase of a new 2007 "City Golf" this summer.
This
car is equipped with the been-around-for-ages 2.0L 8V engine. In and
around
the year 2000, these engines had a reputation for being oil users - 1/2 to
1
litre of oil every 1000 miles was considered "normal". Is this still the
case, or did VW make changes to rings or valve seals to reduce oil usage
to
levels that are "normal" for other makes of car?





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Default Re: Oil consumption for 2.0L 8V - solved? - 03-11-2007 , 12:23 PM



That's the first I've heard of an oil comsumption problem with that
engine.

And, by the way, that is a HUGE amount of oil. No car that doesn't
have a serious problem would comsume that much.

Mike


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Default Re: Oil consumption for 2.0L 8V - solved? - 03-15-2007 , 02:32 PM



no need to worry because VW in the USA only has the new 2.5L & 2L-SFI in
that car. The old 2l is gone.


"WT" <waltert (AT) mts (DOT) net> wrote

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I am contemplating the purchase of a new 2007 "City Golf" this summer.
This
car is equipped with the been-around-for-ages 2.0L 8V engine. In and
around
the year 2000, these engines had a reputation for being oil users - 1/2 to
1
litre of oil every 1000 miles was considered "normal". Is this still the
case, or did VW make changes to rings or valve seals to reduce oil usage
to
levels that are "normal" for other makes of car?





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Default Re: Oil consumption for 2.0L 8V - solved? - 03-15-2007 , 05:49 PM



The "City Golf" is only sold in Canada, and is just a slightly re-
optioned A4, at a very attractive price. It has the 8V 2.0L engine.

On Mar 15, 2:32 pm, "news.wildblue.net" <w... (AT) asdmonline (DOT) net> wrote:
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no need to worry because VW in the USA only has the new 2.5L & 2L-SFI in
that car. The old 2l is gone.



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Default Re: Oil consumption for 2.0L 8V - solved? - 03-16-2007 , 10:18 AM



Quote:
That's the first I've heard of an oil comsumption problem with that
engine.
The 2.0s are well-known to have an oil-consumption problem. Mine, an
'01, will use about a quart in the span of an oil-change interval, more
when I do a lot of high-speed freeway driving in warm weather. The
story is that VW spec'ed a low-tension oil ring to decrease friction and
increase fuel economy, but it leads to high oil consumption. You hear
about it from owners all the time, but dealers refuse to acknowledge it.
My local VW guy says he's re-ringed quite a few, and putting new oil
rings in does the trick. I don't like it, but all it requires is that
you watch the oil level a little more closely than you might be used to.
Scared hell out of me when the car was new, but I've gotten used to
it, now.

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And, by the way, that is a HUGE amount of oil. No car that doesn't
have a serious problem would comsume that much.
No, not true -- it's just a car with too-low-tension oil rings, that's
all. Huge oil consumption is a couple, three, four quarts in 5000 miles.


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Default Re: Oil consumption for 2.0L 8V - solved? - 03-16-2007 , 06:42 PM



I have a friend with a '03 Golf 2.0 5 spd.
It's engine will use 4 or more quarts in less than 3K miles.
She is having the dealer check on it although they seem slow about doing it.

Also the thin oil does not help. <g>


"Brian Running" <brunning (AT) XXameritechXX (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
That's the first I've heard of an oil comsumption problem with that
engine.

The 2.0s are well-known to have an oil-consumption problem. Mine, an '01,
will use about a quart in the span of an oil-change interval, more when I
do a lot of high-speed freeway driving in warm weather. The story is that
VW spec'ed a low-tension oil ring to decrease friction and increase fuel
economy, but it leads to high oil consumption. You hear about it from
owners all the time, but dealers refuse to acknowledge it. My local VW guy
says he's re-ringed quite a few, and putting new oil rings in does the
trick. I don't like it, but all it requires is that you watch the oil
level a little more closely than you might be used to. Scared hell out of
me when the car was new, but I've gotten used to it, now.

And, by the way, that is a HUGE amount of oil. No car that doesn't
have a serious problem would comsume that much.

No, not true -- it's just a car with too-low-tension oil rings, that's
all. Huge oil consumption is a couple, three, four quarts in 5000 miles.



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Default Re: Oil consumption for 2.0L 8V - solved? - 03-17-2007 , 11:17 AM



Quote:
I have a friend with a '03 Golf 2.0 5 spd.
It's engine will use 4 or more quarts in less than 3K miles.
She is having the dealer check on it although they seem slow about doing it.

Also the thin oil does not help. <g
I work with a guy who claims that he'll go through 6-8 quarts in an
oil-change interval. '01 Beetle with a 2.0. If true, THAT's huge oil
consumption.

I do switch over to 15W50 or 20W50 in the summer before long trips, and
it does help.


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Default Re: Oil consumption for 2.0L 8V - solved? - 03-17-2007 , 03:34 PM



Good you switch to the thicker stuff, so do I. ;-)

Oil usage like what has been reported here just isn't right.
VW has had some issues with valve guide seals at least since the 80s maybe
but I thought it was solved with new style guide seals.
Maybe it is how the engines are broken in initially or ?????

I have an '83 GTi engine (in my '83 Audi 4000s) with 240K miles and it does
not use much if any oil.
--
later,
dave
(One out of many daves)


"Brian Running" <brunning (AT) xxtdsxx (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
I have a friend with a '03 Golf 2.0 5 spd.
It's engine will use 4 or more quarts in less than 3K miles.
She is having the dealer check on it although they seem slow about doing
it.

Also the thin oil does not help. <g

I work with a guy who claims that he'll go through 6-8 quarts in an
oil-change interval. '01 Beetle with a 2.0. If true, THAT's huge oil
consumption.

I do switch over to 15W50 or 20W50 in the summer before long trips, and it
does help.



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Default Re: Oil consumption for 2.0L 8V - solved? - 03-17-2007 , 05:36 PM



Quote:
Maybe it is how the engines are broken in initially or ?????
No, really, it's the rings. Honest!

Quote:
I have an '83 GTi engine (in my '83 Audi 4000s) with 240K miles and it does
not use much if any oil.
None of my other Vee-Dubs used oil. Had the bad valve guide seals in my
'85, but other than that, no oil issues.


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