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Original oil filter way too tight! (04 Golf)
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Re: Original oil filter way too tight! (04 Golf) -
06-04-2005
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NO, it's not a "defect" if you have the correct tool to remove the filter. Check with the techs at your dealer and have them show you what they use to get the filter off... and BTW you need to remove it from under the car. |
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"Rich Wales" <richw (AT) richw (DOT) org> wrote in message news:20050531061306.R29461.richw (AT) whodunit (DOT) richw.org... I did my first (5K mile) oil/filter change on my 04 Golf today. Or, at least, I changed the oil. I couldn't change the filter because the old filter (the one originally installed at the factory when the car was assembled) was on so tight that I was absolutely unable to remove it, even after three hours' worth of trying numerous tools and all the brute strength my arms, legs, and (poor aching) back could muster. I had already drained the crankcase before discovering that the filter had been installed by a gorilla with power tools, so I ended up (for the time being at least) putting in new oil, but keeping the old filter. Has anyone else encountered a similar problem? How did you deal with it? Did you get VW involved? (I'm very seriously considering raising a stink over this with VW -- arguing that the unreasonably tight oil filter is a defect that they have an obligation to rectify, without charge, under the warranty.) Rich Wales richw (AT) richw (DOT) org http://www.richw.org |
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The problem I think is the factory doesn't put lube on the seal when putting the first one on. Should be easy from now on. |
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"Rich Wales" <richw (AT) richw (DOT) org> wrote in message news:20050603034649.W83918.richw (AT) whodunit (DOT) richw.org... Earlier, I wrote: Someone else suggested a strap wrench, BTW; that was the first thing I tried, but in this case it was totally ineffective. I finally took it to a mechanic. He told me afterwards that he had needed to use a two-foot-long breaker bar in order to produce enough torque to remove the original oil filter. Rich Wales richw (AT) richw (DOT) org http://www.richw.org |
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NO, it's not a "defect" if you have the correct tool to remove the filter. Check with the techs at your dealer and have them show you what they use to get the filter off... |
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One of those big channel lock type oil filter wrenches. |
two-foot-long breaker bar, together with some sort of three-
fingered "claw" type of tool to grip the sides of the filter.
When I described what had been needed to a dealer service manager
(who had earlier refused to loosen the filter for free as a
warranty repair), he agreed that this was much more force than
should have been necessary.
A conventional filter wrench (e.g., a cheap strap wrench) would
not have been suitable, because there is not enough clearance
around the sides of the filter (various A/C and radiator hoses).
I tried using a strap wrench with a swivel handle, but I wasn't
able to produce enough torque and didn't have a breaker bar.
Rich Wales richw (AT) richw (DOT) org http://www.richw.org
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In article <85df3$42a18991$41c7133c$25967 (AT) SALSGIVER (DOT) COM>, Woodchuck <stv_euroski (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: The problem I think is the factory doesn't put lube on the seal when putting the first one on. Should be easy from now on. Scary German thinking... "Rich Wales" <richw (AT) richw (DOT) org> wrote in message news:20050603034649.W83918.richw (AT) whodunit (DOT) richw.org... Earlier, I wrote: Someone else suggested a strap wrench, BTW; that was the first thing I tried, but in this case it was totally ineffective. I finally took it to a mechanic. He told me afterwards that he had needed to use a two-foot-long breaker bar in order to produce enough torque to remove the original oil filter. Rich Wales richw (AT) richw (DOT) org http://www.richw.org -- Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice... |
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Drive a screwdriver through the filter, turn. Clean up the oil spill with kitty litter. Next? "Rich Wales" <richw (AT) richw (DOT) org> wrote in message news:20050531061306.R29461.richw (AT) whodunit (DOT) richw.org... I did my first (5K mile) oil/filter change on my 04 Golf today. Or, at least, I changed the oil. I couldn't change the filter because the old filter (the one originally installed at the factory when the car was assembled) was on so tight that I was absolutely unable to remove it, even after three hours' worth of trying numerous tools and all the brute strength my arms, legs, and (poor aching) back could muster. I had already drained the crankcase before discovering that the filter had been installed by a gorilla with power tools, so I ended up (for the time being at least) putting in new oil, but keeping the old filter. Has anyone else encountered a similar problem? How did you deal with it? Did you get VW involved? (I'm very seriously considering raising a stink over this with VW -- arguing that the unreasonably tight oil filter is a defect that they have an obligation to rectify, without charge, under the warranty.) Rich Wales richw (AT) richw (DOT) org http://www.richw.org |
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