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Default power steering goes out in wet conditions - 04-19-2007 , 09:16 AM






1994 VW Jetta

Power steering goes out in wet conditions. I feel the steering wheel
get tough to turn (I can still manuver the car). The belt is not
slipping, fluid level is good. Is this just a matter of changing the
pump, or do I have a more serious problem?


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Default Re: power steering goes out in wet conditions - 04-19-2007 , 09:27 AM






it's water on the belt!!!!! does the car have the belt shield installed????

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1994 VW Jetta

Power steering goes out in wet conditions. I feel the steering wheel
get tough to turn (I can still manuver the car). The belt is not
slipping, fluid level is good. Is this just a matter of changing the
pump, or do I have a more serious problem?




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Default Re: power steering goes out in wet conditions - 04-19-2007 , 09:56 AM



On Apr 19, 10:27 am, "news.wildblue.net" <w... (AT) asdmonline (DOT) net> wrote:
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it's water on the belt!!!!! does the car have the belt shield installed????

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Humm...

I think I removed it to overhaul the engine. I will put it back on.



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Default Re: power steering goes out in wet conditions - 04-19-2007 , 10:20 AM



On 19 Apr 2007 07:16:15 -0700, cle0947 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com wrote:

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1994 VW Jetta

Power steering goes out in wet conditions. I feel the steering wheel
get tough to turn (I can still manuver the car). The belt is not
slipping, fluid level is good. Is this just a matter of changing the
pump, or do I have a more serious problem?

If you have no problems with the PS when the pavement is dry
( like while turning tightly while parking ) then either the belt
is loose or it's shot. How do you know the belt is not slippin?


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Default Re: power steering goes out in wet conditions - 04-20-2007 , 02:29 AM



<cle0947 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

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1994 VW Jetta

Power steering goes out in wet conditions. I feel the steering wheel
get tough to turn (I can still manuver the car). The belt is not
slipping, fluid level is good. Is this just a matter of changing the
pump, or do I have a more serious problem?
I replace the belts on my two Scirocco's ('87's) every year and a half to
two years to avoid this exact problem. Even adjusted properly, when they're
getting older, if I hit puddles the P/S goes out. One of the cars has and
the other does not have a shield thing that's supposed to go at the bottom
end of the belts. It helps. The one without slips more often and for
longer periods than the one with it. I also loose the alternator at times
on the one without, but never seem to on the one with.

- Bill



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Default Re: power steering goes out in wet conditions - 04-20-2007 , 07:40 AM



The pulleys get very smooth over time and with a little water added =
slippage. If you scuff them up with some sandpaper that might solve your
problems for a year or two.

How do you know that the belts are not slipping?

There should be a tech. bulletin on installing a splash guard to reduce this
problem.
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dave
(One out of many daves)

"Bill Leary" <Bill_Leary (AT) msn (DOT) com> wrote in message >> 1994 VW Jetta
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Power steering goes out in wet conditions. I feel the steering wheel
get tough to turn (I can still manuver the car). The belt is not
slipping, fluid level is good. Is this just a matter of changing the
pump, or do I have a more serious problem?

I replace the belts on my two Scirocco's ('87's) every year and a half to
two years to avoid this exact problem. Even adjusted properly, when
they're getting older, if I hit puddles the P/S goes out. One of the cars
has and the other does not have a shield thing that's supposed to go at
the bottom end of the belts. It helps. The one without slips more often
and for longer periods than the one with it. I also loose the alternator
at times on the one without, but never seem to on the one with.

- Bill




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Default Re: power steering goes out in wet conditions - 04-20-2007 , 08:24 AM




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I didn't hear any squeek. But the point above seems to be that the
water is enough lube to get it slipping. Maybe it is enough to
eliminate any squeek.

I will try tighening and giving it a few hits with the sandpaper, then
put the guard back on (if I can find it, I think it is in the shed
behind my ramps or something).

Thanks a bunch all that wrote, I have a tendency to replace first,
ya'll saved me the price of a new pump.



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Default Re: power steering goes out in wet conditions - 04-20-2007 , 06:52 PM



"dave AKA vwdoc1" <vwdoc1 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

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The pulleys get very smooth over time and with a little water added =
slippage. If you scuff them up with some sandpaper that might solve your
problems for a year or two.
Interesting idea. Logical, anyway. I'll try that next time.

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How do you know that the belts are not slipping?
Inverted logic, I guess. If nothing is screwing up, I assume they're not.
The other thing is that when it the problem first starts, the P/S basically
just does out and comes back. As it gets worse, the P/S goes off, but I
get squealing as it comes back. That is, hit puddle, lose P/S, hear
screaching noise, P/S comes back.

- Bill



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Default Re: power steering goes out in wet conditions - 04-20-2007 , 08:18 PM



AHHHH that lets you know that the belts ARE slipping! <g>

So an easy problem to solve. ;-)

YEAH uhhhh..............put that splash guard BACK on! lol
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later,
dave
(One out of many daves)


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The pulleys get very smooth over time and with a little water added =
slippage. If you scuff them up with some sandpaper that might solve your
problems for a year or two.

Interesting idea. Logical, anyway. I'll try that next time.

How do you know that the belts are not slipping?

Inverted logic, I guess. If nothing is screwing up, I assume they're not.
The other thing is that when it the problem first starts, the P/S
basically just does out and comes back. As it gets worse, the P/S goes
off, but I get squealing as it comes back. That is, hit puddle, lose P/S,
hear screaching noise, P/S comes back.

- Bill




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Default Re: power steering goes out in wet conditions - 04-20-2007 , 08:28 PM



On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 20:18:05 -0500, "dave AKA vwdoc1" <vwdoc1 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

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AHHHH that lets you know that the belts ARE slipping! <g

So an easy problem to solve. ;-)

YEAH uhhhh..............put that splash guard BACK on! lol
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dave
(One out of many daves)
Like the oil drips under the old Harleys ,, if there were
drips that meant your oil level was OK.



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