I heard both versions were coming stateside with a 2.0 litre TDi making around
130Hp. However, California, Maine and 2 or 3 other states may not be getting
them. I know for certain that California and Maine are not allowing sales of
the V10 TDi powered Toureag.

It's coming to Canada... maybe they just didn't order them in yet. I hope
you guys in the US will be able to get it, I think the diesel just suits the
wagon better (utility style engine in a utility style car... albeit a very
nice one...very very nice one)
"John A. Stovall" <johnastovall (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote

"John A. Stovall" wrote:

all the diesel passats will be in pretty tight supply for the next
several months....diesel is available in both sedan and wagon versions
in usa...

regards

"Steve Grauman" <oneactor1 (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote

Add new york to that list of no go on the TDI as of 2004. I think it includes
ME, MA, NY, CA and perhaps others. I am trying to figure a way around it!

--
Tony Bad

02 Jetta Wagon
01 Eurovan MV
91 Jetta 1.6 Diesel
86 Jetta
79 Rabbit 1.5 Diesel (semi-retired for now)
Schwinn Continental 10 Speed
Radio Flyer Pedal Car (my daughter made me add this)

I was told that the TDi Toureag would be coming to CA in 2005 or so after some
legal changes and apprently some changes to the diesel fuel that comes into the
state. Maybe NY has a similar situation going on. We have more cars here in CA
than anywehre else in the U.S. if I remember the stats correctly, and that
means emissions laws are going to be stricter to help compensate (I'm not
really sure why Maine is so worried). As far as getting around the law, I think
you're screwed. I was told that even if you purchased the vehicle out of state
you wouldn't be allowed to register it legally in one of the "diesel ban
states" untill the vehicle was 2 years old.

We got a TDI Passat about 2 weeks ago. Also have a TDI Touareg on our lot.
We got the Touareg because our dealer sold 10 Phaetons so far and the TDI
Touareg was from the auto show!


"Rob Guenther" <robertguenther (AT) sympatico (DOT) ca> wrote

In Maine, while you can't buy a TDI after 04, there is nothing in place to
prevent you from buying one out of state and registering it in Maine. And
there won't be, they would have had to have the implementation well under way
by now. My roommate is a City Clerk - registering cars is what she does for a
living. :-)


Kevin Rhodes
Westbrook, Maine

In article <20040424235053.13276.00000327 (AT) mb-m06 (DOT) aol.com>, oneactor1 (AT) aol (DOT) com
(Steve Grauman) wrote:

In article <408bb613$0$246$4d5ecec7 (AT) reader (DOT) city-net.com>,
"Woodchuck" <stv_euroski (AT) yahoo (DOT) comXXX> wrote:

Holy smoke - ten Phaetons? I'm amazed that there is such a demand. But
that's good news for VW. Last month I saw a Phaeton at our dealer the
day after it arrived. It was their first one. It was silver and one of
the best looking cars I've ever seen. It had a much sleeker appearance
than I expected. And I'm also glad to hear that the diesel Touareg has
arrived. I thought VW was going to wait until the new low sulfur diesel
fuel was in use (2006?).

Bill

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In <20040424184555.24592.00000351 (AT) mb-m03 (DOT) aol.com> Steve Grauman wrote:
is the Gov. 'nuf said. Diesel fuel releases less hydrocarbons into the
air then gasoline does, especailly the new VW's. They are just as
economical if not better then the hybrid cars that have a battery in
them that is highly toxic and non-recyclable. Hello California!! What
are you going to do with all those highly toxic batteries?

"jj" <zeusisthedog (AT) yahoo (DOT) nospam.com> wrote

Diesels are better than gas for fuel economy, but they are worse in regard
to virtually all emissions. Compared to gas engines, diesels emit more
hydrocarbons, more partuculates, and a lot more nitrogen oxides which cause
photochemical smog. I have a Jetta TDI wagon which I bought to save fuel,
and to make a statement that I can get 45 mpg doing the same thing that a
lot of people do with 14 mpg SUV's. If I lived in southern California or an
other big city area where smog is a problem, I probably wouldn't have bought
the diesel, even if I could. In the two places I spend most of my time,
central Indiana and the space coast of Florida, smog producing emissions are
not an issue.

BTW, the states where diesel cars are not currently sold are California, New
York, Maine, Massachusetts, and Connecticut. All of these states, except
possibly Maine, have areas where smog is sometimes an issue.