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My wife and I are getting closer to our purchase, thanks in part to the helpful people here and in some of the web-forums. We're leaning towards a 2004 TDI with the 5-speed manual transmission. As we discuss our potential pending purchase with friends and family members, one person mentioned that we need to investigate "diesel poisoning" because she knew someone that was apparently poisoned by some sort of leak in this person's Jetta a number of years ago. A quick google on "diesel poisoning" does list a few symptoms and such, but I haven't been able to find many details. While I find this a bit difficult to understand how exactly this happened, it's worth asking the question: Is this a potential problem with these cars? While we're at it, apparently diesel exhaust is very carcinogenic, and will also exacerbate asthma. We have young children and certainly don't want them exposed to anything potentially harmful. It would seem to me that our governments wouldn't allow the sale of diesel passenger cars at all if this was an issue. Any thoughts or concerns with this? Cheers, Wyley |
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My wife and I are getting closer to our purchase, thanks in part to the helpful people here and in some of the web-forums. We're leaning towards a 2004 TDI with the 5-speed manual transmission. As we discuss our potential pending purchase with friends and family members, one person mentioned that we need to investigate "diesel poisoning" because she knew someone that was apparently poisoned by some sort of leak in this person's Jetta a number of years ago. A quick google on "diesel poisoning" does list a few symptoms and such, but I haven't been able to find many details. While I find this a bit difficult to understand how exactly this happened, it's worth asking the question: Is this a potential problem with these cars? While we're at it, apparently diesel exhaust is very carcinogenic, and will also exacerbate asthma. We have young children and certainly don't want them exposed to anything potentially harmful. It would seem to me that our governments wouldn't allow the sale of diesel passenger cars at all if this was an issue. Any thoughts or concerns with this? Cheers, Wyley |
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The Union of Concerned Scientists (UCS) has commissioned/written a report covering many of the issues in this thread. http://www.ucsusa.org/clean_vehicles...fm?pageID=1307 doug Wyley Ingeus <notthe (AT) ctualaddress (DOT) com> wrote My wife and I are getting closer to our purchase, thanks in part to the helpful people here and in some of the web-forums. We're leaning towards a 2004 TDI with the 5-speed manual transmission. As we discuss our potential pending purchase with friends and family members, one person mentioned that we need to investigate "diesel poisoning" because she knew someone that was apparently poisoned by some sort of leak in this person's Jetta a number of years ago. A quick google on "diesel poisoning" does list a few symptoms and such, but I haven't been able to find many details. While I find this a bit difficult to understand how exactly this happened, it's worth asking the question: Is this a potential problem with these cars? While we're at it, apparently diesel exhaust is very carcinogenic, and will also exacerbate asthma. We have young children and certainly don't want them exposed to anything potentially harmful. It would seem to me that our governments wouldn't allow the sale of diesel passenger cars at all if this was an issue. Any thoughts or concerns with this? Cheers, Wyley |
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Interesting article. I think the number 2 killer in the USA is fat. Sendentary lifestyles makes for more deaths than current tailpipe emissions but cleaning up the air is a good thing anyway. How do we get parents to get off their fat butts and go out and play with their kids? How do we get folks to spend less time in newsgroups and out exercising, doing yardwork, or doing anything that does not involve a crt, lcd or led? One article suggest 400,000 deaths due to poor diet and lack of physical activity. Number 2 killer and you worry about handguns in the hands of thugs. http://www.rocheuk.com/html/health/WeightManagement.asp http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99994763 rhwyd (AT) storm (DOT) ca (Douglas k Brown) wrote: The Union of Concerned Scientists (UCS) has commissioned/written a report covering many of the issues in this thread. http://www.ucsusa.org/clean_vehicles...fm?pageID=1307 doug Wyley Ingeus <notthe (AT) ctualaddress (DOT) com> wrote My wife and I are getting closer to our purchase, thanks in part to the helpful people here and in some of the web-forums. We're leaning towards a 2004 TDI with the 5-speed manual transmission. As we discuss our potential pending purchase with friends and family members, one person mentioned that we need to investigate "diesel poisoning" because she knew someone that was apparently poisoned by some sort of leak in this person's Jetta a number of years ago. A quick on "diesel poisoning" does list a few symptoms and such, but I haven't been able to find many details. While I find this a bit difficult to understand how exactly this happened, it's worth asking the question: Is this a potential problem with these cars? While we're at it, apparently diesel exhaust is very carcinogenic, and will also exacerbate asthma. We have young children and certainly don't want them exposed to anything potentially harmful. It would seem to me that our governments wouldn't allow the sale of diesel passenger cars at all if this was an issue. Any thoughts or concerns with this? Cheers, Wyley Jim B. |
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I have asthma and find the diesel fumes are a little more of a nuisance. But I choose diesel. I also concur that the fumes are more likely to cause cancer then gas fumes , but I still choose diesel. |
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I own a 2001 Golf 5-speed TDI. If I'm standing still and idling with a window open, I occasionally get some exhaust fumes in the passenger compartment. I guess if I rolled a couple of windowns down all the way this would be minimized. I've never been poisoned by my car, though. Any excessive fumes would signal a leak of some kind. Seems to me that gasoline fumes are equally bad, as well as carcinogenic. TDIs are great engines, but you trade one set of negative emissions for another, compared with gasoline engines. I recommend TDIs very highly, especially with fuel prices about to go into the stratosphere. |
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Buy diesel, if it's low sulphur, they are safer. |
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Derek Wealleans wrote: Buy diesel, if it's low sulphur, they are safer. If the OP lives in North America, "low sulfur" is not an option. -- Mike Smith |
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Derek Wealleans wrote: Buy diesel, if it's low sulphur, they are safer. If the OP lives in North America, "low sulfur" is not an option. |
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Mike Smith <mike_UNDERSCORE_smith (AT) acm (DOT) DOT.org> wrote in news:10738nksq5mgre0 (AT) news (DOT) supernews.com: Derek Wealleans wrote: Buy diesel, if it's low sulphur, they are safer. If the OP lives in North America, "low sulfur" is not an option. I (the OP) live in Canada. I just talked to someone from Transport Canada that tells me that we'll have nothing but low-sulfur diesel by 2006 here. |
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