On Sep 14, 12:56*pm, Just Facts <Jf... (AT) intnet (DOT) wrld> wrote:

With respect, if any contemporary vehicle receives the scrupulous,
often expensive and painstaking maintenance that a VW requires to make
that 'properly broken in' 100,000 miles - it too will last equally as
long. So, the statement is not BS, just very nearly impossible to
execute.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

pfjw (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:
The owner's manual for my 2009 VW Rabbit (AKA Golf) says the break-in
period is 1,000 miles. So what's this about 100,000 miles? That seems
like an awfly long break-in period. VW's factory warranty (in the US
anyway) only goes up to 36,000 miles/3 years.

Eric

Josh S wrote:
From what I understand, the name is actually "New Beetle", not just
Beetle. So the name is actually different, to differentiate it from the
old Beetle.

On Sep 16, 12:59*pm, Eric Oulashin <eric.oulas... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

The issue is around the definition of "properly".

VW has pretty much always demonstrated a singular lack of faith in
their products these last dozen years or so based on their warranties,
anyway.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

pfjw (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:
I have heard that VW cars were getting lower-than-average reliability
ratings in recent years. A long time ago, I had always thought VWs were
known to be very reliable cars. Indeed, I saw (and still occasionally
see) many early 80s VW Rabbits (AKA Golf) on the road, as well as older
Beetles.

I had a 2006 VW Rabbit at one time, and when I bought that car, the VW
salesperson told me that many of the New Beetles were having lots of
reliability problems. The reason, as explained to me, was that at the
plant where the New Beetles are made (at their Mexico plant), they
weren't inspecting the cars before they were shipped. The salesperson
said the manager of that plant was fired. On the other side, I've heard
that the VW Passat is known to be a reliable car, and those are made at
VW's plant in Germany. So, perhaps the quality issues have to do with
different plants not following outlined procedures.

Eric

Yeah I am not too fond of the newest VWs, but the ones made in around 2001
had warranties on their powertrains for 10 years or 100,000 miles (original
owners though)
I have driven some VWs with less than 100K miles and they just feel like
they are quite running smooth enough to me!

Yeah minor things break or go bad but I know a few VWs running well and they
have past 240K miles.
A couple of theses are 1995 Jettas with the 2.0 engine and auto trans!
I only have 240K on my '83 GTi engine in my '83 Audi 4KS with 240K. <g>

I would buy a VW/Audi with over 100K miles before I buy a Japanese or
American car! I would buy a Jeep with over 100K miles though. <g>

JMHO
--
later,
(One out of many daves)

"Eric Oulashin" <eric.oulashin (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
My dad used to drive a 1980 VW Scirocco that he eventually replaced in
1998. It had near 200,000 miles or maybe more (I don't remember
exactly), and from what I remember, I'm pretty sure it still had its
original clutch!

My 2009 Rabbit was assembled in Germany (rather than Mexico or Brazil,
where the US models have been manufactured in the past), and it gives me
a little more confidence to know that it was assembled at VW's home
factory. I think they were careful to use the word "assembled", though,
because various parts may come from other factories. The engine came
from VW's Mexico plant, and the transmission came from Japan.

I think the Japanese brands have tended to be good cars too. I haven't
heard anything bad about Honda, and I always used to hear good things
about Toyota, although I've heard Toyota's quality has gone down a bit
lately. Before I bought my 2009 VW Rabbit, I considered buying a Mazda
3 (hatchback version), but it seemed like the VW Rabbit was a better
value. The VW Rabbit had a more powerful engine (170HP vs. 156), and
its transmission had 1 more speed (6 vs. 5).

Eric