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Default starter problem? 89 Fox - 04-10-2007 , 07:20 PM






Hi there, I need you help again. I have a 1989 Fox that won't
start. I replaced the starter, and still no dice. When you
turn the key, you hear a single faint click in the starter area.
Just like before I replaced the starter. Battery is OK, because
jump starting won't help. I assume its a wire problem. Any
suggestions where to start looking now? I looked quickly at
the starter wires and they looked OK.

Thanks

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Lost In Space/Woodchuck
 
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Default Re: starter problem? 89 Fox - 04-10-2007 , 08:12 PM






do a voltage drop test on both battery cables from battery to starter and
battery to engine ground.


"Kevin" <kevins7 (AT) att (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
Hi there, I need you help again. I have a 1989 Fox that won't
start. I replaced the starter, and still no dice. When you
turn the key, you hear a single faint click in the starter area.
Just like before I replaced the starter. Battery is OK, because
jump starting won't help. I assume its a wire problem. Any
suggestions where to start looking now? I looked quickly at
the starter wires and they looked OK.

Thanks



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Default Re: starter problem? 89 Fox - 04-10-2007 , 09:41 PM



Yeah check that large ground cable end at the transmission.

AND did you use a KNOWN good starter? New, rebuilt or used?
Does the engine turn over by hand?

"Lost In Space/Woodchuck" <newsgroupmail1 (AT) wildblue (DOT) net> wrote

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do a voltage drop test on both battery cables from battery to starter and
battery to engine ground.


"Kevin" <kevins7 (AT) att (DOT) net> wrote in message
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Hi there, I need you help again. I have a 1989 Fox that won't
start. I replaced the starter, and still no dice. When you
turn the key, you hear a single faint click in the starter area.
Just like before I replaced the starter. Battery is OK, because
jump starting won't help. I assume its a wire problem. Any
suggestions where to start looking now? I looked quickly at
the starter wires and they looked OK.

Thanks





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Default Re: starter problem? 89 Fox - 04-11-2007 , 01:52 AM



On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 00:20:23 GMT, Kevin <kevins7 (AT) att (DOT) net> wrote:

Quote:
Hi there, I need you help again. I have a 1989 Fox that won't
start. I replaced the starter, and still no dice. When you
turn the key, you hear a single faint click in the starter area.
Just like before I replaced the starter. Battery is OK, because
jump starting won't help. I assume its a wire problem. Any
suggestions where to start looking now? I looked quickly at
the starter wires and they looked OK.

Thanks
Insure your battery is good, turn the key to run - turn on all headlights
and blow the horn. If the lights dim or go out then the battery is low.
I know you said jumping didn't help but sometimes jumper cables fail.
If the battery is good - using a jumper cable from the negative terminal of
the battery to the engine block will check if the engine ground to battery
is at fault.
After that the only thing left is the big wire from battery positive to the starter.
Assuming the clicking you are heraing is the starter solenoid engaging.



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Detailing Dude
 
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Default Re: starter problem? 89 Fox - 04-11-2007 , 09:34 AM



Automatic or manual ? In Park/neutral?


<samstone (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 00:20:23 GMT, Kevin <kevins7 (AT) att (DOT) net> wrote:

Hi there, I need you help again. I have a 1989 Fox that won't
start. I replaced the starter, and still no dice. When you
turn the key, you hear a single faint click in the starter area.
Just like before I replaced the starter. Battery is OK, because
jump starting won't help. I assume its a wire problem. Any
suggestions where to start looking now? I looked quickly at
the starter wires and they looked OK.

Thanks
Insure your battery is good, turn the key to run - turn on all headlights
and blow the horn. If the lights dim or go out then the battery is low.
I know you said jumping didn't help but sometimes jumper cables fail.
If the battery is good - using a jumper cable from the negative terminal
of
the battery to the engine block will check if the engine ground to battery
is at fault.
After that the only thing left is the big wire from battery positive to
the starter.
Assuming the clicking you are heraing is the starter solenoid engaging.




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Kevin
 
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Default Re: starter problem? 89 Fox - 04-11-2007 , 03:01 PM



"Detailing Dude" <cecil (AT) pdisteel (DOT) biz> wrote in
news:2m6Th.72329$s8.18076 (AT) newsfe21 (DOT) lga:

Its a 4 speed manual. I had to get somebody to push me at work to
get it started to get it home. I tried a new ground with the jumper
cables, but it didn't work. Its a rebuilt starter from Auto Zone,
could be a bad starter too. Cost about 115. I'll look at it more
tomorrow, its raining here in Virginia.

thanks



Quote:
Automatic or manual ? In Park/neutral?


samstone (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 00:20:23 GMT, Kevin <kevins7 (AT) att (DOT) net> wrote:

Hi there, I need you help again. I have a 1989 Fox that won't
start. I replaced the starter, and still no dice. When you
turn the key, you hear a single faint click in the starter area.
Just like before I replaced the starter. Battery is OK, because
jump starting won't help. I assume its a wire problem. Any
suggestions where to start looking now? I looked quickly at
the starter wires and they looked OK.

Thanks
Insure your battery is good, turn the key to run - turn on all
headlights and blow the horn. If the lights dim or go out then the
battery is low.
I know you said jumping didn't help but sometimes jumper cables
fail.
If the battery is good - using a jumper cable from the negative
terminal
of
the battery to the engine block will check if the engine ground to
battery is at fault.
After that the only thing left is the big wire from battery
positive
to
the starter.
Assuming the clicking you are heraing is the starter solenoid
engaging.





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dave AKA vwdoc1
 
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Default Re: starter problem? 89 Fox - 04-11-2007 , 07:34 PM



OK what brand is that starter? Duralast? Are they any good for the VWs?
I think I prefer Bosch starters and they can be sold at stores like Murrays
Discount and others.

I have heard the starters from Pep Boys are pretty good, at least for the
'90 Jetta auto.

"Kevin" <kevins7 (AT) att (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
"Detailing Dude" <cecil (AT) pdisteel (DOT) biz> wrote in
news:2m6Th.72329$s8.18076 (AT) newsfe21 (DOT) lga:

Its a 4 speed manual. I had to get somebody to push me at work to
get it started to get it home. I tried a new ground with the jumper
cables, but it didn't work. Its a rebuilt starter from Auto Zone,
could be a bad starter too. Cost about 115. I'll look at it more
tomorrow, its raining here in Virginia.

thanks



Automatic or manual ? In Park/neutral?


samstone (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 00:20:23 GMT, Kevin <kevins7 (AT) att (DOT) net> wrote:

Hi there, I need you help again. I have a 1989 Fox that won't
start. I replaced the starter, and still no dice. When you
turn the key, you hear a single faint click in the starter area.
Just like before I replaced the starter. Battery is OK, because
jump starting won't help. I assume its a wire problem. Any
suggestions where to start looking now? I looked quickly at
the starter wires and they looked OK.

Thanks
Insure your battery is good, turn the key to run - turn on all
headlights and blow the horn. If the lights dim or go out then the
battery is low.
I know you said jumping didn't help but sometimes jumper cables
fail.
If the battery is good - using a jumper cable from the negative
terminal
of
the battery to the engine block will check if the engine ground to
battery is at fault.
After that the only thing left is the big wire from battery
positive
to
the starter.
Assuming the clicking you are heraing is the starter solenoid
engaging.







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Kevin
 
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Default Re: starter problem? 89 Fox - 04-11-2007 , 08:10 PM




Its probably cheap junk, rebuilt in china probably.
I've put at least 2 starters on this car in the last
5 years. The heat gets to them, exhaust line is just
inches away.



"dave AKA vwdoc1" <vwdoc1 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in
news:_7fTh.7804$Kd3.6879 (AT) newssvr27 (DOT) news.prodigy.net:

Quote:
OK what brand is that starter? Duralast? Are they any good for
the
VWs? I think I prefer Bosch starters and they can be sold at stores
like Murrays Discount and others.

I have heard the starters from Pep Boys are pretty good, at least
for
the '90 Jetta auto.

"Kevin" <kevins7 (AT) att (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:Xns990FA2F596BC8kevins7attnet (AT) 204 (DOT) 127.36.1...
"Detailing Dude" <cecil (AT) pdisteel (DOT) biz> wrote in
news:2m6Th.72329$s8.18076 (AT) newsfe21 (DOT) lga:

Its a 4 speed manual. I had to get somebody to push me at work to
get it started to get it home. I tried a new ground with the
jumper
cables, but it didn't work. Its a rebuilt starter from Auto Zone,
could be a bad starter too. Cost about 115. I'll look at it more
tomorrow, its raining here in Virginia.

thanks



Automatic or manual ? In Park/neutral?


samstone (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:461c81f8.2496538 (AT) news (DOT) epix.net...
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 00:20:23 GMT, Kevin <kevins7 (AT) att (DOT) net> wrote:

Hi there, I need you help again. I have a 1989 Fox that won't
start. I replaced the starter, and still no dice. When you
turn the key, you hear a single faint click in the starter
area.
Just like before I replaced the starter. Battery is OK, because
jump starting won't help. I assume its a wire problem. Any
suggestions where to start looking now? I looked quickly at
the starter wires and they looked OK.

Thanks
Insure your battery is good, turn the key to run - turn on all
headlights and blow the horn. If the lights dim or go out then
the
battery is low.
I know you said jumping didn't help but sometimes jumper cables
fail.
If the battery is good - using a jumper cable from the negative
terminal
of
the battery to the engine block will check if the engine ground
to
battery is at fault.
After that the only thing left is the big wire from battery
positive
to
the starter.
Assuming the clicking you are heraing is the starter solenoid
engaging.









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Kevin
 
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Default Re: starter problem? 89 Fox - 04-12-2007 , 06:57 PM



Well my fellow VW enthusiast:
I finally cracked the case.
This moron of a mechanic had the 2 wires
on the selonoid backwards.....
switched the wires and she took off
like a jet...
Thanks guys....






Kevin <kevins7 (AT) att (DOT) net> wrote in news:Xns990FD63A2A47Ekevins7attnet@
204.127.36.1:



Quote:
Its probably cheap junk, rebuilt in china probably.
I've put at least 2 starters on this car in the last
5 years. The heat gets to them, exhaust line is just
inches away.



"dave AKA vwdoc1" <vwdoc1 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in
news:_7fTh.7804$Kd3.6879 (AT) newssvr27 (DOT) news.prodigy.net:

OK what brand is that starter? Duralast? Are they any good for
the
VWs? I think I prefer Bosch starters and they can be sold at
stores
like Murrays Discount and others.

I have heard the starters from Pep Boys are pretty good, at least
for
the '90 Jetta auto.

"Kevin" <kevins7 (AT) att (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:Xns990FA2F596BC8kevins7attnet (AT) 204 (DOT) 127.36.1...
"Detailing Dude" <cecil (AT) pdisteel (DOT) biz> wrote in
news:2m6Th.72329$s8.18076 (AT) newsfe21 (DOT) lga:

Its a 4 speed manual. I had to get somebody to push me at work
to
get it started to get it home. I tried a new ground with the
jumper
cables, but it didn't work. Its a rebuilt starter from Auto Zone,
could be a bad starter too. Cost about 115. I'll look at it more
tomorrow, its raining here in Virginia.

thanks



Automatic or manual ? In Park/neutral?


samstone (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:461c81f8.2496538 (AT) news (DOT) epix.net...
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 00:20:23 GMT, Kevin <kevins7 (AT) att (DOT) net
wrote:

Hi there, I need you help again. I have a 1989 Fox that won't
start. I replaced the starter, and still no dice. When you
turn the key, you hear a single faint click in the starter
area.
Just like before I replaced the starter. Battery is OK,
because
jump starting won't help. I assume its a wire problem. Any
suggestions where to start looking now? I looked quickly at
the starter wires and they looked OK.

Thanks
Insure your battery is good, turn the key to run - turn on all
headlights and blow the horn. If the lights dim or go out then
the
battery is low.
I know you said jumping didn't help but sometimes jumper
cables
fail.
If the battery is good - using a jumper cable from the negative
terminal
of
the battery to the engine block will check if the engine ground
to
battery is at fault.
After that the only thing left is the big wire from battery
positive
to
the starter.
Assuming the clicking you are heraing is the starter solenoid
engaging.











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