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Default Tappet noise after oil change - 02-06-2004 , 04:32 PM






At 5000 miles I changed my oil to Mobil 1 0-40W also with a new VW
filter on my '03 Passat Varient with a 1.8T. I've noticed a 1 second
tappet sound much like an oil starved hydraulic lifter (does this
engine even have lifters?) when first starting in cold weather (I'm in
central Virginia). This didn't happen with the original dealer oil in.
Anyone else have this occur with Mobil 1 0-40W? Am wondering if I
should pull out a few quarts and put in some Mobil 1 10-40W to raise
the viscosity?



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Default Re: Tappet noise after oil change - 02-06-2004 , 05:00 PM






Could be a lifter but more likely it's the cam chain adjustor under the
valve cover. If it goes away in a couple seconds I wouldn't worry as it may
just be because before the oil pressure builds up. BTW, I'm not too fond of
"0" oils.


"Rod" <rgjast (AT) msn (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
At 5000 miles I changed my oil to Mobil 1 0-40W also with a new VW
filter on my '03 Passat Varient with a 1.8T. I've noticed a 1 second
tappet sound much like an oil starved hydraulic lifter (does this
engine even have lifters?) when first starting in cold weather (I'm in
central Virginia). This didn't happen with the original dealer oil in.
Anyone else have this occur with Mobil 1 0-40W? Am wondering if I
should pull out a few quarts and put in some Mobil 1 10-40W to raise
the viscosity?



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Default Re: Tappet noise after oil change - 02-06-2004 , 08:38 PM



VW used to call that "normal" in the older 1.8 engines. My 99.5 new jetta
tdi does it also. But that oil sounds thin for Virginia. What ranges does VW
call for. I use 5-40 in my tdi and I'm in Ohio. Some tdi owners use 0- xx in
Canada but I'm sure it's colder there. I would use what you have in there
untill the weather warms up a bit then change it for a slightly heavier
grade.

Jo Bo
"Rod" <rgjast (AT) msn (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
At 5000 miles I changed my oil to Mobil 1 0-40W also with a new VW
filter on my '03 Passat Varient with a 1.8T. I've noticed a 1 second
tappet sound much like an oil starved hydraulic lifter (does this
engine even have lifters?) when first starting in cold weather (I'm in
central Virginia). This didn't happen with the original dealer oil in.
Anyone else have this occur with Mobil 1 0-40W? Am wondering if I
should pull out a few quarts and put in some Mobil 1 10-40W to raise
the viscosity?



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Default Re: Tappet noise after oil change - 02-08-2004 , 07:57 AM



Rod wrote:
Quote:
At 5000 miles I changed my oil to Mobil 1 0-40W also with a new VW
filter on my '03 Passat Varient with a 1.8T. I've noticed a 1 second
tappet sound much like an oil starved hydraulic lifter (does this
engine even have lifters?) when first starting in cold weather (I'm in
central Virginia). This didn't happen with the original dealer oil in.
Anyone else have this occur with Mobil 1 0-40W? Am wondering if I
should pull out a few quarts and put in some Mobil 1 10-40W to raise
the viscosity?



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Wrong oil ??

see:
http://www.ew2.lubesinfo.com/frameset.asp

click on PKWs and search for your car.
In Europe Volkswagen dealers only use Shell lubricants.

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Default Re: Tappet noise after oil change - 02-08-2004 , 06:34 PM



Hello
I would try the 10w40. 0w40 sounds way too thin for the type of weather
in Virginia. I have an 88 Fox that i run 10w40 (in Canada) for winter and
20w50 in summer to stop lifter noise. It works for me... Have a try and see
what it does.
Kelly

"Rod" <rgjast (AT) msn (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
At 5000 miles I changed my oil to Mobil 1 0-40W also with a new VW
filter on my '03 Passat Varient with a 1.8T. I've noticed a 1 second
tappet sound much like an oil starved hydraulic lifter (does this
engine even have lifters?) when first starting in cold weather (I'm in
central Virginia). This didn't happen with the original dealer oil in.
Anyone else have this occur with Mobil 1 0-40W? Am wondering if I
should pull out a few quarts and put in some Mobil 1 10-40W to raise
the viscosity?



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Default Re: Tappet noise after oil change - 02-09-2004 , 08:42 AM



For the 1.8T, VW recommends 5-40W. With the turbo, a synthetic oil is
also recommended. However, it's hard to find a true synthetic 5-40W
around here except for the Castrol from the dealer at over $8/qt. Many
VW drivers are using the Mobil 1 0-40W with no tappett sound problems.
In the spring/summer I'll mix 10-40 and 0-40 and see what that does.


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Default Re: Tappet noise after oil change - 02-11-2004 , 02:16 PM



In article <e3d2a680.0402090542.7f9e173d (AT) posting (DOT) google.com>,
rgjast (AT) earthlink (DOT) net (Rod) wrote:

Quote:
For the 1.8T, VW recommends 5-40W. With the turbo, a synthetic oil is
also recommended.
If that's true, then why does my dealer put non-synthetic 10W-30 in our
1.8T Passat?

However, it's hard to find a true synthetic 5-40W
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around here except for the Castrol from the dealer at over $8/qt. Many
VW drivers are using the Mobil 1 0-40W with no tappett sound problems.
In the spring/summer I'll mix 10-40 and 0-40 and see what that does.
For the last oil change, I brought my own 5W-40 synthetic that I got at
Wal Mart. I think it was Shell Rotella.

Bill
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95 Golf GL...since 11/99 02 Passat 1.8T Tip GLS...since 4/02
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Default Re: Tappet noise after oil change - 02-11-2004 , 05:29 PM



William Maslin wrote:

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In article <e3d2a680.0402090542.7f9e173d (AT) posting (DOT) google.com>,
rgjast (AT) earthlink (DOT) net (Rod) wrote:


For the 1.8T, VW recommends 5-40W. With the turbo, a synthetic oil is
also recommended.


If that's true, then why does my dealer put non-synthetic 10W-30 in our
1.8T Passat?
I'd find another dealer. AFAIK all B5 Passats (both 1.8T and 2.8) are
supposed to get 5W40.

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Default Re: Tappet noise after oil change - 02-11-2004 , 05:44 PM



VW only specs synthetic oil for the TDI and not the 1.8t which uses
dino-oil. Yes I think the 1.8t should use synthetic oil but I think VW took
it's owners in consideration to only use dino-oil. Most VW owners would cry
having to step up and pay the added cost of synthetic.



"Rod" <rgjast (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
For the 1.8T, VW recommends 5-40W. With the turbo, a synthetic oil is
also recommended. However, it's hard to find a true synthetic 5-40W
around here except for the Castrol from the dealer at over $8/qt. Many
VW drivers are using the Mobil 1 0-40W with no tappett sound problems.
In the spring/summer I'll mix 10-40 and 0-40 and see what that does.


Thanks



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Default Re: Tappet noise after oil change - 02-14-2004 , 09:17 PM



You're better off with the 10-40 only

"Woodchuck" <stv_euroski (AT) yahoo (DOT) comXXX> wrote

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VW only specs synthetic oil for the TDI and not the 1.8t which uses
dino-oil. Yes I think the 1.8t should use synthetic oil but I think VW
took
it's owners in consideration to only use dino-oil. Most VW owners would
cry
having to step up and pay the added cost of synthetic.



"Rod" <rgjast (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:e3d2a680.0402090542.7f9e173d (AT) posting (DOT) google.com...
For the 1.8T, VW recommends 5-40W. With the turbo, a synthetic oil is
also recommended. However, it's hard to find a true synthetic 5-40W
around here except for the Castrol from the dealer at over $8/qt. Many
VW drivers are using the Mobil 1 0-40W with no tappett sound problems.
In the spring/summer I'll mix 10-40 and 0-40 and see what that does.


Thanks





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