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Default ac bolt on passat - 03-18-2007 , 09:12 AM






Hey folks - The AC compressor on my 96 passat is held on by two 16mm
bolts into the AC/Alternator bracket. The bolts are around four inches
long. Problem: 3" from the Bracket is the wheel well. I've got the bolt
loose but when I try to pull it out there's not enough clearance. Am I
missing something here? Do I need to lift the engine off of its mounts
before I can get this bolt out?

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Default Re: ac bolt on passat - 03-18-2007 , 06:21 PM






It helps when an engine type is mentioned! ;-)
VR6, TDI, or ???

"starburst" <nope (AT) nospam (DOT) net> wrote

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Hey folks - The AC compressor on my 96 passat is held on by two 16mm bolts
into the AC/Alternator bracket. The bolts are around four inches long.
Problem: 3" from the Bracket is the wheel well. I've got the bolt loose
but when I try to pull it out there's not enough clearance. Am I missing
something here? Do I need to lift the engine off of its mounts before I
can get this bolt out?



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Default Re: ac bolt on passat - 03-18-2007 , 06:58 PM



dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
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It helps when an engine type is mentioned! ;-)
VR6, TDI, or ???

"starburst" <nope (AT) nospam (DOT) net> wrote in message
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Hey folks - The AC compressor on my 96 passat is held on by two 16mm bolts
into the AC/Alternator bracket. The bolts are around four inches long.
Problem: 3" from the Bracket is the wheel well. I've got the bolt loose
but when I try to pull it out there's not enough clearance. Am I missing
something here? Do I need to lift the engine off of its mounts before I
can get this bolt out?



Sorry about that - VR6.


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Default Re: ac bolt on '96 passat VR6 - 03-19-2007 , 01:14 AM



The Bentley CD just says very little about them!

Loosen hex bolts a couple of turns and knock-back threaded sleeves from
compressor. Then remove hex bolts.

You had to go through a lot to take off the a/c compressor according to
them. :-(

Good luck,
dave
(One out of many daves)


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dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
It helps when an engine type is mentioned! ;-)
VR6, TDI, or ???

"starburst" <nope (AT) nospam (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:etjdo1$dd$1 (AT) geraldo (DOT) cc.utexas.edu...

Hey folks - The AC compressor on my 96 passat is held on by two 16mm
bolts into the AC/Alternator bracket. The bolts are around four inches
long. Problem: 3" from the Bracket is the wheel well. I've got the bolt
loose but when I try to pull it out there's not enough clearance. Am I
missing something here? Do I need to lift the engine off of its mounts
before I can get this bolt out?




Sorry about that - VR6.



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Default Re: ac bolt on '96 passat VR6 - 03-19-2007 , 07:32 AM



dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
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The Bentley CD just says very little about them!

Loosen hex bolts a couple of turns and knock-back threaded sleeves from
compressor. Then remove hex bolts.

You had to go through a lot to take off the a/c compressor according to
them. :-(

Good luck,
dave
(One out of many daves)


Just to vent a very little, for a book that cost more than a hundred and
takes two thick volumes, the Bentley for the 95-97 Passats really
stinks. Impossible to find things, no internal logic that I can see,
poorly cross-referenced, no index. A few decent diagrams, but a lot that
aren't detailed enough. No photos.

Typical for this volume: on the page for the AC compressor (V87-50), it
says "loosen hex nuts -10- a couple of turns and knock back threaded
sleeves from compressor, then remove hex bolts." What the heck does
"knock back threaded sleeves" mean?

Still, I must be missing something here, because I can't believe that
you have to lift the engine off of its mounts just to remove the AC
compressor. Maybe you have to remove the alternator first and then the
bracket? I don't know. But Bentley on this is pretty worthless.

Thanks - Chris


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Default Re: ac bolt on '96 passat VR6 - 03-19-2007 , 09:08 AM



On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 06:32:14 -0500, starburst <nope (AT) nospam (DOT) net> wrote:
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Typical for this volume: on the page for the AC compressor (V87-50), it
says "loosen hex nuts -10- a couple of turns and knock back threaded
sleeves from compressor, then remove hex bolts." What the heck does
"knock back threaded sleeves" mean?

Still, I must be missing something here, because I can't believe that
you have to lift the engine off of its mounts just to remove the AC
compressor. Maybe you have to remove the alternator first and then the
bracket? I don't know. But Bentley on this is pretty worthless.

Thanks - Chris
Just from the discription from your bentley quote, my > guess < is :
There are bushings in the compressor on the side away from the nuts,
that is hammered out by having the bolt in place with just the nut loosened
by a few threads then tapping the nut towards the bolt end.
Then with that bushing popped out you'll have enough sideways movement
to get the bushing and the bolt out all the way.
( IF ) the bolts you've tried to remove have threads all the way to the head
( non shouldered) my thoughts would be that is the case.
Would you mind telling us why you want want the a/c comp. off?



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Default Re: ac bolt on '96 passat VR6 - 03-19-2007 , 09:11 AM



On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:08:53 GMT, samstone (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:
a second thought : do the re-installation instructions yeild any clues?


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Default Re: ac bolt on '96 passat VR6 - 03-19-2007 , 09:50 AM



Oh no I think you need to remove almost the front of the vehicle, bumper,
a/c condensor, radiator in order to remove the a/c compressor. So it is not
a small job here.

YES Bentley is NOT user-friendly!! If there is something better let us
know! ;-)
Bentley Official Factory Repair Manual info might be different than their
Service Repair Manual, but I doubt if it is any easier with the Service
Manual instead of the Factory Manual.
Haynes is much better reading most of the time, but it goes into too much
generic information along with pictures of Nissans or Chevys. lol

"starburst" <nope (AT) nospam (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
The Bentley CD just says very little about them!

Loosen hex bolts a couple of turns and knock-back threaded sleeves from
compressor. Then remove hex bolts.

You had to go through a lot to take off the a/c compressor according to
them. :-(

Good luck,
dave
(One out of many daves)



Just to vent a very little, for a book that cost more than a hundred and
takes two thick volumes, the Bentley for the 95-97 Passats really stinks.
Impossible to find things, no internal logic that I can see, poorly
cross-referenced, no index. A few decent diagrams, but a lot that aren't
detailed enough. No photos.

Typical for this volume: on the page for the AC compressor (V87-50), it
says "loosen hex nuts -10- a couple of turns and knock back threaded
sleeves from compressor, then remove hex bolts." What the heck does "knock
back threaded sleeves" mean?

Still, I must be missing something here, because I can't believe that you
have to lift the engine off of its mounts just to remove the AC
compressor. Maybe you have to remove the alternator first and then the
bracket? I don't know. But Bentley on this is pretty worthless.

Thanks - Chris



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Default Re: ac bolt on '96 passat VR6 - 03-19-2007 , 03:36 PM



ROFL
What re-installation instructions? <g>
There are none in my Bentley CD (Version 00.01)
There is only a description of how to disassemble things along with torque
specs.

I think the OP will not find it in his Bentley manual either, but I could be
wrong. ;-)
--
later,
dave
(One out of many daves)

<samstone (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote

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On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:08:53 GMT, samstone (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:
a second thought : do the re-installation instructions yeild any clues?




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Default Re: ac bolt on '96 passat VR6 - 03-19-2007 , 07:11 PM



On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:36:31 GMT, "dave AKA vwdoc1" <vwdoc1 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

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ROFL

dave
(One out of many daves)

getting a good laugh from you is nearly as good as helping someone !
, not even the old " refitting is a reversal of removal " ? dang...
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