Yea, Well, to bad they still want our money.
"Mike Smith" <mikeUNDERSCOREsmith (AT) acm (DOT) org> wrote

Mike Smith wrote:
Maybe it is America that hates clean air. VW can't import cars into the
US if the US does not have fuel clean enough for them.

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Joseph Meehan

Dia duit

VW is a performance car company first and foremost. They also change
direction very slowly. I would imagine we will see smaller engines from VW ,
or even another smaller car, in a few to 5 years. Of course that's if gas
stays about 3-4 bucks a gallon. If you want better gas mileage , you know
what to do. I,m not going to bash the Focus. It works for you. But it is a
mediocre car at best, that finally has most of the bugs out of it. The
Escort was a better car all the way around. And there are better cars ,
that cost less, are more reliable and get better mileage, then the Focus.
Ford and GM are in a world of hurt because they lack a world class small
car. Really, they only have about 2-3 cars between them that people actually
want.
"Chicago Paddling-Fishing" <jwn (AT) ripco (DOT) com> wrote

none2u wrote:
In most of Europe, 3-4 dollars US per gallon would be a very low price.



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Dia duit

Joseph Meehan wrote:
The Twincharger engine would run just fine on US fuel.

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Mike Smith

Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote:
Keep in mind that the Rabbit is also heavier than the Focus, thus
offsetting the extra power.

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none2u <none2u (AT) notrealatall (DOT) bye> wrote:
: VW is a performance car company first and foremost. They also change
: direction very slowly. I would imagine we will see smaller engines from VW ,
: or even another smaller car, in a few to 5 years. Of course that's if gas
: stays about 3-4 bucks a gallon. If you want better gas mileage , you know
: what to do. I,m not going to bash the Focus. It works for you. But it is a
: mediocre car at best, that finally has most of the bugs out of it. The
: Escort was a better car all the way around. And there are better cars ,
: that cost less, are more reliable and get better mileage, then the Focus.
: Ford and GM are in a world of hurt because they lack a world class small
: car. Really, they only have about 2-3 cars between them that people actually
: want.

Did you watch the WRC broadcasts on Speed Channel last year? I was very
surprised to see the Focus take 3 of the top 6 places in the series... I
didn't see any vw's and sort of enjoyed watching the WRX's burn up...

Like I said, I'll look at the Rabbit, but I'm not sure I'm going to like it
all that much (the dealer was real hot to get me to sit in one last year and
take it for a drive, thinking it would be so much better than my 86 GTI, but
I already have a 2.0 in mine with a new head ( 2 years old ) and it's a much
lighter car, so the new ones weren't as peppy... the other thing that got me
was the dealer just kept pricing so close to the vest it was frustrating)...

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Joseph Meehan wrote:
Close; not "less vibration" with more cylinders, closer
to "smoother running" with more cylinders.

On each ignition a "shock" is applied to the crank
as the piston is forced down. A four cylinder engine
would receive a explosive force every half revolution.

The crank then slows down until the next "bang" that
gets it going again (half a revolution later). A twelve
cylinder engine on the other hand would get it's
"bang" every 1/6th of a revolution. This means that the
crank is kept in motion with less of a bang (because
it hasn't slowed down as much) than the 4 cylinder
engine.

A 4 cylinder slows down and speeds up twice in a
single revolution while the 12 cylinder is kept in
more-or-less constant motion, therefore it's smoother.

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none2u wrote:
VW allready has these engines and they are available for quite some time...
In Europe VW allways offered small 1.3 liter engines in the Golf and
Polo. Later it became a 1.4 liter engine.
In the present time they offer the Fox and Polo (and the Ibiza, Cordoba
from Seat and the Fabia from Skoda) with 1.2 liter 3 cylinder engines.
Allso VW has a choice of 3 cylinder TDI engines with 1.2 and 1.4 liters.
The last one is available with 90bhp.

If enough people would request smaller engines from VW they will bring
them to the US as well. As long as most people want big engines they
wont bring the smaller units to the US.

Remco

Chicago.

As others have pointed out, "it ain't HP that you drive, it's torque". My 93
VW EV has a 5 cylinder 2.5 and it's 15 years old and does not burn a drop of
oil. But I sense you want the Ford Focus so go get one! If you want MPG's
get a 06 tdi while you can. You'll also get wheel spinning low end grunt
with your 50 MPG. My actual fuel consumption for 114k miles in a 99.5 jetta
tdi was 49.6 mpg. "Focus" on that.

JoBo

"Chicago Paddling-Fishing" <jwn (AT) ripco (DOT) com> wrote