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Default 850tdi - OBD2 confusion - 06-08-2005 , 09:21 AM






Hi!
I wanted to buy OBD2 kit for my 11/1996 850tdi imported second hand from
Germany, to be able to read error codes, reset them etc...

I was very happy to see 16-pin connector under the OBD2 marked coin
holder in front of the gear stick. Looked a little on the web, and
everything seemed clear.

BUT, while browsing and deciding which tool I will buy - things got more
and more confusing. So, now it seems that my car is not OBD2-ISO
compliant and things are not that easy.

I remember that somebody here has experience with 850tdi model. Please,
help me with the following stuff...

1) is my 11/1996 850tdi OBD2 compliant?
2) which cable & interface & software combo can I use for sure?
- ElmScan ISO 9141/14230 ( http://www.scantool.net )
- Vol-FCR ( http://www.onboarddiagnostics.co.uk/volfcr/index.html )
- Volvo VADIS
3) what cables & hardware do I need to use Volvo VADIS?
4) which pins on my car's OBD2 connector should be wired?
5) is it possible to read & clear EGR, Air Mass Sensor errors?
6) any other hints on 850tdi - OBD2 stuff greatly appreciated...

Thnx a lot.

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Default Re: 850tdi - OBD2 confusion - 06-08-2005 , 11:21 AM






In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Drnya <drnya.zgb (AT) makniovo (DOT) inet.hr> wrote:

Quote:
Hi!
I wanted to buy OBD2 kit for my 11/1996 850tdi imported second hand
from Germany, to be able to read error codes, reset them etc...

I was very happy to see 16-pin connector under the OBD2 marked coin
holder in front of the gear stick. Looked a little on the web, and
everything seemed clear.

BUT, while browsing and deciding which tool I will buy - things got
more and more confusing. So, now it seems that my car is not OBD2-ISO
compliant and things are not that easy.

I remember that somebody here has experience with 850tdi model.
Please, help me with the following stuff...

1) is my 11/1996 850tdi OBD2 compliant?
2) which cable & interface & software combo can I use for sure?
- ElmScan ISO 9141/14230 ( http://www.scantool.net )
- Vol-FCR ( http://www.onboarddiagnostics.co.uk/volfcr/index.html )
- Volvo VADIS
3) what cables & hardware do I need to use Volvo VADIS?
4) which pins on my car's OBD2 connector should be wired?
5) is it possible to read & clear EGR, Air Mass Sensor errors?
6) any other hints on 850tdi - OBD2 stuff greatly appreciated...

Thnx a lot.
One more question . . .

Is it the same for a 1997-9 V70 TDi? [Same engine, almost same body, ODB2
connector inside storage box under centre armrest]
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Default Re: 850tdi - OBD2 confusion - 06-11-2005 , 10:14 AM



Hi,

Look at my answers to each question line.

Best regards Per

Quote:
1) is my 11/1996 850tdi OBD2 compliant?
Ans: No, the engine use Bosch MSA 15.7 ECU which has no OBD2 command
language

Quote:
2) which cable & interface & software combo can I use for sure?
Ans: Vol-FCR ( http://www.onboarddiagnostics.co.uk/volfcr/index.html )
is working

3) what cables & hardware do I need to use Volvo VADIS?
Ans: Don't look into that solution - it is for a Volvo garage

Quote:
4) which pins on my car's OBD2 connector should be wired?
Ans: You can buy assembled cable together with VOL-FCR or find
one that can assemble yourself on e.q. ebay

Quote:
5) is it possible to read & clear EGR, Air Mass Sensor errors?
Ans: Yes and much more.....


Quote:
Thnx a lot.

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Default Re: 850tdi - OBD2 confusion - 06-11-2005 , 10:15 AM




"Bonnet Lock" <vol (AT) privacy (DOT) net> skrev i en meddelelse
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Quote:
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Drnya <drnya.zgb (AT) makniovo (DOT) inet.hr> wrote:

Hi!
I wanted to buy OBD2 kit for my 11/1996 850tdi imported second hand
from Germany, to be able to read error codes, reset them etc...

I was very happy to see 16-pin connector under the OBD2 marked coin
holder in front of the gear stick. Looked a little on the web, and
everything seemed clear.

BUT, while browsing and deciding which tool I will buy - things got
more and more confusing. So, now it seems that my car is not OBD2-ISO
compliant and things are not that easy.

I remember that somebody here has experience with 850tdi model.
Please, help me with the following stuff...

1) is my 11/1996 850tdi OBD2 compliant?
2) which cable & interface & software combo can I use for sure?
- ElmScan ISO 9141/14230 ( http://www.scantool.net )
- Vol-FCR ( http://www.onboarddiagnostics.co.uk/volfcr/index.html )
- Volvo VADIS
3) what cables & hardware do I need to use Volvo VADIS?
4) which pins on my car's OBD2 connector should be wired?
5) is it possible to read & clear EGR, Air Mass Sensor errors?
6) any other hints on 850tdi - OBD2 stuff greatly appreciated...

Thnx a lot.

One more question . . .

Is it the same for a 1997-9 V70 TDi? [Same engine, almost same body, ODB2
connector inside storage box under centre armrest]
Ans: The ECU must be Bosch MSA 15.8 to support OBD2.....

Quote:
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Default Re: 850tdi - OBD2 confusion - 06-11-2005 , 02:05 PM



In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Per Groth Ludvigsen <pgl (AT) post (DOT) cybercity.dk> wrote:

Quote:
One more question . . .

Is it the same for a 1997-9 V70 TDi? [Same engine, almost same body,
ODB2 connector inside storage box under centre armrest]

Ans: The ECU must be Bosch MSA 15.8 to support OBD2.....

I believe that mine is 15.8

This being the case, where can I get a definitive list which explains what
all the codes mean - in case I ever buy an ODB2 interface?
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Default Re: 850tdi - OBD2 confusion - 06-11-2005 , 03:36 PM



Try www.odb-codes.com.
I do not have specific for Volvo.

Best regards


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Quote:
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Per Groth Ludvigsen <pgl (AT) post (DOT) cybercity.dk> wrote:


One more question . . .

Is it the same for a 1997-9 V70 TDi? [Same engine, almost same body,
ODB2 connector inside storage box under centre armrest]

Ans: The ECU must be Bosch MSA 15.8 to support OBD2.....

I believe that mine is 15.8

This being the case, where can I get a definitive list which explains what
all the codes mean - in case I ever buy an ODB2 interface?
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Default Re: 850tdi - OBD2 confusion - 06-11-2005 , 05:25 PM



In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Per Groth Ludvigsen <pgl (AT) post (DOT) cybercity.dk> wrote:

Quote:
Try www.odb-codes.com.
I do not have specific for Volvo.

Thanks - but the link doesn't seem to work. Are you sure it's correct?
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Default Re: 850tdi - OBD2 confusion - 06-12-2005 , 04:28 AM



850 Tdi and SV70 Tdi using MSA15.7 are not OBDII compliant.

Vol-FCR will work but reads fault codes only, but it will do every other
system in your car as well. (Works with cheap 9 pin serial leads for
VAG-COM, search the net for these, you must have a PC with a 9 pin serial
port)

VAG-COM will work on engine (diesel pump) only, the engine is an Audi unit,
try the shareware version.

Hope this helps.


"Drnya" <drnya.zgb (AT) makniovo (DOT) inet.hr> wrote

Quote:
Hi!
I wanted to buy OBD2 kit for my 11/1996 850tdi imported second hand from
Germany, to be able to read error codes, reset them etc...

I was very happy to see 16-pin connector under the OBD2 marked coin
holder in front of the gear stick. Looked a little on the web, and
everything seemed clear.

BUT, while browsing and deciding which tool I will buy - things got more
and more confusing. So, now it seems that my car is not OBD2-ISO
compliant and things are not that easy.

I remember that somebody here has experience with 850tdi model. Please,
help me with the following stuff...

1) is my 11/1996 850tdi OBD2 compliant?
2) which cable & interface & software combo can I use for sure?
- ElmScan ISO 9141/14230 ( http://www.scantool.net )
- Vol-FCR ( http://www.onboarddiagnostics.co.uk/volfcr/index.html )
- Volvo VADIS
3) what cables & hardware do I need to use Volvo VADIS?
4) which pins on my car's OBD2 connector should be wired?
5) is it possible to read & clear EGR, Air Mass Sensor errors?
6) any other hints on 850tdi - OBD2 stuff greatly appreciated...

Thnx a lot.

--
Drnya



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Default Re: 850tdi - OBD2 confusion - 06-12-2005 , 04:39 AM



In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
OBD <noone (AT) nowhere (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
850 Tdi and SV70 Tdi using MSA15.7 are not OBDII compliant.

Vol-FCR will work but reads fault codes only, but it will do every
other system in your car as well. (Works with cheap 9 pin serial
leads for VAG-COM, search the net for these, you must have a PC with
a 9 pin serial port)

VAG-COM will work on engine (diesel pump) only, the engine is an Audi
unit, try the shareware version.

Hope this helps.


I have a 2000MY V70 TDI MSA15.8

Can you please advise me what hardware and software I would need to
interrogate the OBD2 socket on my car - and where to find information about
the codes, so as to be able to understand what it's telling me.
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Default Re: 850tdi - OBD2 confusion - 06-12-2005 , 05:03 AM



Can you explain how to set up VAG-COM for the
diesel pump and a 850 TDI?

I have tried but without succes. It seems that VAG-COM
does not recognise the ECU in the Volvo and Audi uses
Digifant ECU.

Thanks Per

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Quote:
850 Tdi and SV70 Tdi using MSA15.7 are not OBDII compliant.

Vol-FCR will work but reads fault codes only, but it will do every other
system in your car as well. (Works with cheap 9 pin serial leads for
VAG-COM, search the net for these, you must have a PC with a 9 pin serial
port)

VAG-COM will work on engine (diesel pump) only, the engine is an Audi
unit,
try the shareware version.

Hope this helps.


"Drnya" <drnya.zgb (AT) makniovo (DOT) inet.hr> wrote in message
news:d86usk$960$1 (AT) bagan (DOT) srce.hr...
Hi!
I wanted to buy OBD2 kit for my 11/1996 850tdi imported second hand from
Germany, to be able to read error codes, reset them etc...

I was very happy to see 16-pin connector under the OBD2 marked coin
holder in front of the gear stick. Looked a little on the web, and
everything seemed clear.

BUT, while browsing and deciding which tool I will buy - things got more
and more confusing. So, now it seems that my car is not OBD2-ISO
compliant and things are not that easy.

I remember that somebody here has experience with 850tdi model. Please,
help me with the following stuff...

1) is my 11/1996 850tdi OBD2 compliant?
2) which cable & interface & software combo can I use for sure?
- ElmScan ISO 9141/14230 ( http://www.scantool.net )
- Vol-FCR ( http://www.onboarddiagnostics.co.uk/volfcr/index.html )
- Volvo VADIS
3) what cables & hardware do I need to use Volvo VADIS?
4) which pins on my car's OBD2 connector should be wired?
5) is it possible to read & clear EGR, Air Mass Sensor errors?
6) any other hints on 850tdi - OBD2 stuff greatly appreciated...

Thnx a lot.

--
Drnya





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