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Hi folks, subject car is 1986 740 Turbo Intercooler. It still has the 1 piece rotor, and I need to convert to 2 piece. I have a frozen caliper, and don't want to spend money on the old setup. I have a 1988 740 GLE for parts. My plan is to remove the hubs from the 88 and put them on the 86. Will they fit? What can I expect during the conversion, and do I need additional parts other than the spindle nut and new cap? Do I remove everything from the 86 including the inner race, and then the 2 piece hub from the 88 just slips on? Also, I read the brickboard stuff on the hubs, and I'm confused about what it says about a race slipping out of the hub, and you have to put it back and then hold it somehow during installation....????? Can someone translate that or expand on that for me? I'll also be doing the jumbo brake upgrade.... thanks much, Glenn |
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/g wrote: Hi folks, subject car is 1986 740 Turbo Intercooler. It still has the 1 piece rotor, and I need to convert to 2 piece. I have a frozen caliper, and don't want to spend money on the old setup. I have a 1988 740 GLE for parts. My plan is to remove the hubs from the 88 and put them on the 86. Will they fit? What can I expect during the conversion, and do I need additional parts other than the spindle nut and new cap? Do I remove everything from the 86 including the inner race, and then the 2 piece hub from the 88 just slips on? Also, I read the brickboard stuff on the hubs, and I'm confused about what it says about a race slipping out of the hub, and you have to put it back and then hold it somehow during installation....????? Can someone translate that or expand on that for me? I'll also be doing the jumbo brake upgrade.... thanks much, Glenn As I recall, 1988 has a larger spindle and different hub design, so if that's the case you will need to swap the whole strut assemblies. Pop the cap off the '88 and see if it has a castle nut with a cotter pin or the later style locknut. The older style has a conventional wheel bearing that you pack with grease and assemble. The later type uses ball bearings permanently mounted in the hub assemblies. |
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"James Sweet" <jamessweet1 (AT) trashmail (DOT) net> wrote in message news:gssmba$rjd$1 (AT) news (DOT) motzarella.org... /g wrote: Hi folks, subject car is 1986 740 Turbo Intercooler. It still has the 1 piece rotor, and I need to convert to 2 piece. I have a frozen caliper, and don't want to spend money on the old setup. I have a 1988 740 GLE for parts. My plan is to remove the hubs from the 88 and put them on the 86. Will they fit? What can I expect during the conversion, and do I need additional parts other than the spindle nut and new cap? Do I remove everything from the 86 including the inner race, and then the 2 piece hub from the 88 just slips on? Also, I read the brickboard stuff on the hubs, and I'm confused about what it says about a race slipping out of the hub, and you have to put it back and then hold it somehow during installation....????? Can someone translate that or expand on that for me? I'll also be doing the jumbo brake upgrade.... thanks much, Glenn As I recall, 1988 has a larger spindle and different hub design, so if that's the case you will need to swap the whole strut assemblies. Pop the cap off the '88 and see if it has a castle nut with a cotter pin or the later style locknut. The older style has a conventional wheel bearing that you pack with grease and assemble. The later type uses ball bearings permanently mounted in the hub assemblies. The 86 Turbo has the old style 1 piece hub with adjustable/packable bearings. The 88 parts car has the new style 2 piece hub. I want to put the 88 hub on the 86. If the spindle is different, then no, the 88 part won't fit. I was hoping that things didn't change that much between years. I'll be tearing things down today and take a look. thanks, /glenn |
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/g wrote: "James Sweet" <jamessweet1 (AT) trashmail (DOT) net> wrote in message news:gssmba$rjd$1 (AT) news (DOT) motzarella.org... /g wrote: Hi folks, subject car is 1986 740 Turbo Intercooler. It still has the 1 piece rotor, and I need to convert to 2 piece. I have a frozen caliper, and don't want to spend money on the old setup. I have a 1988 740 GLE for parts. My plan is to remove the hubs from the 88 and put them on the 86. Will they fit? What can I expect during the conversion, and do I need additional parts other than the spindle nut and new cap? Do I remove everything from the 86 including the inner race, and then the 2 piece hub from the 88 just slips on? Also, I read the brickboard stuff on the hubs, and I'm confused about what it says about a race slipping out of the hub, and you have to put it back and then hold it somehow during installation....????? Can someone translate that or expand on that for me? I'll also be doing the jumbo brake upgrade.... thanks much, Glenn As I recall, 1988 has a larger spindle and different hub design, so if that's the case you will need to swap the whole strut assemblies. Pop the cap off the '88 and see if it has a castle nut with a cotter pin or the later style locknut. The older style has a conventional wheel bearing that you pack with grease and assemble. The later type uses ball bearings permanently mounted in the hub assemblies. The 86 Turbo has the old style 1 piece hub with adjustable/packable bearings. The 88 parts car has the new style 2 piece hub. I want to put the 88 hub on the 86. If the spindle is different, then no, the 88 part won't fit. I was hoping that things didn't change that much between years. I'll be tearing things down today and take a look. thanks, /glenn There are three different hub designs. There is the old one piece hub with the bearing races pressed into the hub which is part of the brake rotor. Then there is the updated hub with the bearing races pressed into a hub which is separate from the brake rotor, then there is the newest design starting in '88 or '89 in which the bearings are ball bearing units permanently installed in the hub which fits on a larger spindle. If your parts car has the original separate hub/brake assemblies that fit on the older spindle with conventional bearings then it's a straight swap. |
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"James Sweet" <jamessweet1 (AT) trashmail (DOT) net> wrote in message news:gsvlbd$uv0$1 (AT) news (DOT) motzarella.org... /g wrote: "James Sweet" <jamessweet1 (AT) trashmail (DOT) net> wrote in message news:gssmba$rjd$1 (AT) news (DOT) motzarella.org... /g wrote: Hi folks, subject car is 1986 740 Turbo Intercooler. It still has the 1 piece rotor, and I need to convert to 2 piece. I have a frozen caliper, and don't want to spend money on the old setup. I have a 1988 740 GLE for parts. My plan is to remove the hubs from the 88 and put them on the 86. Will they fit? What can I expect during the conversion, and do I need additional parts other than the spindle nut and new cap? Do I remove everything from the 86 including the inner race, and then the 2 piece hub from the 88 just slips on? Also, I read the brickboard stuff on the hubs, and I'm confused about what it says about a race slipping out of the hub, and you have to put it back and then hold it somehow during installation....????? Can someone translate that or expand on that for me? I'll also be doing the jumbo brake upgrade.... thanks much, Glenn As I recall, 1988 has a larger spindle and different hub design, so if that's the case you will need to swap the whole strut assemblies. Pop the cap off the '88 and see if it has a castle nut with a cotter pin or the later style locknut. The older style has a conventional wheel bearing that you pack with grease and assemble. The later type uses ball bearings permanently mounted in the hub assemblies. The 86 Turbo has the old style 1 piece hub with adjustable/packable bearings. The 88 parts car has the new style 2 piece hub. I want to put the 88 hub on the 86. If the spindle is different, then no, the 88 part won't fit. I was hoping that things didn't change that much between years. I'll be tearing things down today and take a look. thanks, /glenn There are three different hub designs. There is the old one piece hub with the bearing races pressed into the hub which is part of the brake rotor. Then there is the updated hub with the bearing races pressed into a hub which is separate from the brake rotor, then there is the newest design starting in '88 or '89 in which the bearings are ball bearing units permanently installed in the hub which fits on a larger spindle. If your parts car has the original separate hub/brake assemblies that fit on the older spindle with conventional bearings then it's a straight swap. Excellent! That's the type of distinction I was looking for. I'll pull the hub off the parts car and see what bearings are in it. I did hit the 'yards this morning, and no older 740's around. I called the dealer and list is $145 each for the conversion hubs. I get a discount, so I'll pay a bit less than that if I go with the dealer. I have a couple of other options that I've run across that I need to check. Thanks for the info. /glenn |
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