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Is there such a thing as a computer upgrade chip for a 92 960 that would increase fuel mileage? Even though it would reduce acceleration......... |
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Is there such a thing as a computer upgrade chip for a 92 960 that would increase fuel mileage? Even though it would reduce acceleration......... |
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masqqqqqqq (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote: Is there such a thing as a computer upgrade chip for a 92 960 that would increase fuel mileage? Even though it would reduce acceleration......... I doubt it, but the good news is you can get pretty much the same result by increasing tire pressure to 10% below the max pressure listed on the sidewalls, |
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A/C while getting up to speed or climbing hills. Those changes should be good for about 3-4mpg more, which is the most you could expect from a chip... |
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Leftie wrote: masqqqqqqq (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote: Is there such a thing as a computer upgrade chip for a 92 960 that would increase fuel mileage? Even though it would reduce acceleration......... I doubt it, but the good news is you can get pretty much the same result by increasing tire pressure to 10% below the max pressure listed on the sidewalls, ... but don't brake or corner too hard in the wet! |
| and accelerating gently. Also, don't run the A/C while getting up to speed or climbing hills. Those changes should be good for about 3-4mpg more, which is the most you could expect from a chip... |
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Centre Parting wrote: Leftie wrote: masqqqqqqq (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote: Is there such a thing as a computer upgrade chip for a 92 960 that would increase fuel mileage? Even though it would reduce acceleration......... I doubt it, but the good news is you can get pretty much the same result by increasing tire pressure to 10% below the max pressure listed on the sidewalls, ... but don't brake or corner too hard in the wet! If you are running good (not even great, just "good") tires it won't be a problem. If it seems a little too stiff, back off the pressure one or two psi at a time. |
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Leftie wrote: Centre Parting wrote: Leftie wrote: masqqqqqqq (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote: Is there such a thing as a computer upgrade chip for a 92 960 that would increase fuel mileage? Even though it would reduce acceleration......... I doubt it, but the good news is you can get pretty much the same result by increasing tire pressure to 10% below the max pressure listed on the sidewalls, ... but don't brake or corner too hard in the wet! If you are running good (not even great, just "good") tires it won't be a problem. If it seems a little too stiff, back off the pressure one or two psi at a time. I have Goodyear F1 on the back of my 940 and had the pressure up at +8psi for a long trip 80% loaded. After finishing the trip and going back to normal loads I didn't reduce the pressure for a few days, the back end does breakaway in the wet and you do lose grip, it is simple physics, the economy goes up because the contact patch with the road is reduced, you will end up wearing your tyres in the middle and have less chance at avoiding unexpected obstacles. Not worth the risk IMO. If you want economy this way then much better to fit the skinniest tyres (correctly inflated) that will go on the rim, and you benefit from reduced air resistance as well as rolling resistance. Of course making sure the tyres are not under-inflated is important too. -- Tony |
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Tony wrote: Leftie wrote: Centre Parting wrote: Leftie wrote: masqqqqqqq (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote: Is there such a thing as a computer upgrade chip for a 92 960 that would increase fuel mileage? Even though it would reduce acceleration......... I doubt it, but the good news is you can get pretty much the same result by increasing tire pressure to 10% below the max pressure listed on the sidewalls, ... but don't brake or corner too hard in the wet! If you are running good (not even great, just "good") tires it won't be a problem. If it seems a little too stiff, back off the pressure one or two psi at a time. I have Goodyear F1 on the back of my 940 and had the pressure up at +8psi for a long trip 80% loaded. After finishing the trip and going back to normal loads I didn't reduce the pressure for a few days, the back end does breakaway in the wet and you do lose grip, it is simple physics, the economy goes up because the contact patch with the road is reduced, you will end up wearing your tyres in the middle and have less chance at avoiding unexpected obstacles. Not worth the risk IMO. If you want economy this way then much better to fit the skinniest tyres (correctly inflated) that will go on the rim, and you benefit from reduced air resistance as well as rolling resistance. Of course making sure the tyres are not under-inflated is important too. -- Tony It's not quite that simple. The rolling resistance can be reduced without reducing the size of the contact patch, by making the tire stiffer - i.e. by increasing the pressure 10%. What is the Goodyear F1? If it's a Summer tire |
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wouldn't use Summer tires for anything except racing on dry pavement. A good all-season, with somewhat stickier rubber, should be fine running 38psi. Postscript: I just looked, and the F1 is indeed a Summer radial. |
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Leftie wrote: Tony wrote: Leftie wrote: Centre Parting wrote: Leftie wrote: masqqqqqqq (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote: Is there such a thing as a computer upgrade chip for a 92 960 that would increase fuel mileage? Even though it would reduce acceleration......... I doubt it, but the good news is you can get pretty much the same result by increasing tire pressure to 10% below the max pressure listed on the sidewalls, ... but don't brake or corner too hard in the wet! If you are running good (not even great, just "good") tires it won't be a problem. If it seems a little too stiff, back off the pressure one or two psi at a time. I have Goodyear F1 on the back of my 940 and had the pressure up at +8psi for a long trip 80% loaded. After finishing the trip and going back to normal loads I didn't reduce the pressure for a few days, the back end does breakaway in the wet and you do lose grip, it is simple physics, the economy goes up because the contact patch with the road is reduced, you will end up wearing your tyres in the middle and have less chance at avoiding unexpected obstacles. Not worth the risk IMO. If you want economy this way then much better to fit the skinniest tyres (correctly inflated) that will go on the rim, and you benefit from reduced air resistance as well as rolling resistance. Of course making sure the tyres are not under-inflated is important too. -- Tony It's not quite that simple. The rolling resistance can be reduced without reducing the size of the contact patch, by making the tire stiffer - i.e. by increasing the pressure 10%. What is the Goodyear F1? If it's a Summer tire With the greatest disrespect, not being a snow-tyre has nothing to do with rain performance. If Summer tyres weren't able to deal with rain, they'd be completely useless - and have absolutely no market. Wrong definition, wrong application to the situation in question. In short, you're wrong. that could well make it slippery - I wouldn't use Summer tires for anything except racing on dry pavement. A good all-season, with somewhat stickier rubber, should be fine running 38psi. Postscript: I just looked, and the F1 is indeed a Summer radial. |
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Centre Parting wrote: Leftie wrote: Tony wrote: Leftie wrote: Centre Parting wrote: Leftie wrote: masqqqqqqq (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote: Is there such a thing as a computer upgrade chip for a 92 960 that would increase fuel mileage? Even though it would reduce acceleration......... I doubt it, but the good news is you can get pretty much the same result by increasing tire pressure to 10% below the max pressure listed on the sidewalls, ... but don't brake or corner too hard in the wet! If you are running good (not even great, just "good") tires it won't be a problem. If it seems a little too stiff, back off the pressure one or two psi at a time. I have Goodyear F1 on the back of my 940 and had the pressure up at +8psi for a long trip 80% loaded. After finishing the trip and going back to normal loads I didn't reduce the pressure for a few days, the back end does breakaway in the wet and you do lose grip, it is simple physics, the economy goes up because the contact patch with the road is reduced, you will end up wearing your tyres in the middle and have less chance at avoiding unexpected obstacles. Not worth the risk IMO. If you want economy this way then much better to fit the skinniest tyres (correctly inflated) that will go on the rim, and you benefit from reduced air resistance as well as rolling resistance. Of course making sure the tyres are not under-inflated is important too. -- Tony It's not quite that simple. The rolling resistance can be reduced without reducing the size of the contact patch, by making the tire stiffer - i.e. by increasing the pressure 10%. What is the Goodyear F1? If it's a Summer tire With the greatest disrespect, not being a snow-tyre has nothing to do with rain performance. If Summer tyres weren't able to deal with rain, they'd be completely useless - and have absolutely no market. Wrong definition, wrong application to the situation in question. In short, you're wrong. that could well make it slippery - I wouldn't use Summer tires for anything except racing on dry pavement. A good all-season, with somewhat stickier rubber, should be fine running 38psi. Postscript: I just looked, and the F1 is indeed a Summer radial. All-Season tires have a more open tread design than Summer tires, |
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and this helps in rain. Summer tires aren't "useless" in rain, I just prefer the all-around traction of All-Seasons to the mainly-dry-pavement traction of performance Summer tires. |
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