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Default Re: Converting a Volvo to elctric power - 07-25-2008 , 09:14 AM






95 850 conversion

www.evalbum.com/1825



byrocat <strikemaster2000 (AT) yahoo (DOT) ca> wrote:
: With North American gas prices approaching European levels (and
: European levels heading for the moon...), I've been looking around to
: see if anyone has converted a Volvo to electric power?

: What got me started was the Discovery Channel Canada's Daily Planet
: episode that covered a Midwest high school student who electrified his
: truck and is now working on doing the same to a Toyota Camry.

: The Camry project is interesting because he appears to be using
: lithium-polymer battery packs rather than the lead-acid type.
: http://broadband.discoverychannel.ca/?vid=44930

: If I do a conversion on my V40, it'll probably be diesel for now -- I
: have to go 50KM (30 miles each way) to work, and that looks to be the
: total limit for most battery systems -- no plug-ins at work to use.

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Default Re: Converting a Volvo to elctric power - 07-25-2008 , 11:00 AM






Leftie wrote:
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~^ beancounter ~^ wrote:
i asked a stupid question...just being a dickhead...i
I guessed that, decided not to entertain it. You missed the point.

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guess.....butt...i have
to say it will be a while b4 we produce (mass produce) modes of
personal
transportation that rivals the gas/desel motor....pound for pound, $
for $..it
will be tough to beat fosil fuels...in the imed future.......at least,
IMHO......


The advantage in using IC engines isn't in the engines - they are
very complex and inefficient. It's in the fuel, which has huge amounts
of solar energy pre-stored in it. Electric motors are vastly superior at
converting energy to transportation, and are very simple, inexpensive
and rugged. It's the storage mediums that we have to improve.



Yes I agree, that was my point really.

Electricity is just more efficient as a drive mechanism, and petrol is
efficient as a storage. We need to start producing electric 'drive'
cars, how the electricity is produced is less important right now, but
it will give us much greater flexibility and efficiency for the limited
amount of fossil fuel left. Those who quote that electricity is
produced by fossil fuels really don't understand the efficiency
improvements.

I don't see any reason to continue producing mechanical drive cars
except for the paradyme that 'we are used to it'. I do like the noise!

We can produce petrol fueled cars now that do 100mpg, why have we not
been doing this since the 70s? I do favour the oil industry/gov't
conspiracy theory.

Electric drive cars are so much more convertable, you could design them
to accept different power/storage sources as technology was available.

--
Tony


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Default Re: Converting a Volvo to elctric power - 07-25-2008 , 12:24 PM



There is a way, "beancounter". Tesla did it many years ago............

Andy I.


"~^ beancounter ~^" <richbonilla (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

why do we need to store the energy in the car...why not
fig a way to transmit wireless to the mobile unit ?










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Default Re: Converting a Volvo to elctric power - 07-27-2008 , 07:39 AM



Andy wrote:
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Good point Leftie! but in addition to the required improvements in storage
mediums, the *production* of electrical energy must get beyond the present
environmentally unfriendly methods which use coal and gas and oil,
especially since the extra demand for electrical energy would be enormous
when we all started to plug in our cars overnight. Nuclear too? Hydrogen
would burn clean in power stations to produce electrical energy, but would
need electrical energy to produce the Hydrogen! (From water by
electrolysis). "Fuel Cells" using Hydrogen are already in use in electric
vehicles, but large scale use for electrical energy generation has not been
contemplated.

What's left? Solar? Tidal? Wind? All are working at present but it
doesn't seem as if they could ever supplant the current (sorry.....)
polluting generating methods. Hydro is great, but sites are limited.

What's left? Put our Volvos up on blocks I guess........

Andy I.

Cars don't require huge amounts of energy, so this is a good
application for solar panels and wind chargers. Put both on parking
garages and home garage roofs, and you're halfway there.



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: The advantage in using IC engines isn't in the engines - they are
: very complex and inefficient. It's in the fuel, which has huge amounts
: of solar energy pre-stored in it. Electric motors are vastly superior at
: converting energy to transportation, and are very simple, inexpensive
: and rugged. It's the storage mediums that we have to improve.



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Default Re: Converting a Volvo to elctric power - 07-28-2008 , 06:04 AM



kmy (AT) hiwaay (DOT) net wrote:
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95 850 conversion

www.evalbum.com/1825

Nice looking car, and they obviously spent a lot of money on it,
but it's highly impractical. 25 mile range??? I've seen lots of driveway
conversions on compacts with twice that range.


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byrocat <strikemaster2000 (AT) yahoo (DOT) ca> wrote:
: With North American gas prices approaching European levels (and
: European levels heading for the moon...), I've been looking around to
: see if anyone has converted a Volvo to electric power?

: What got me started was the Discovery Channel Canada's Daily Planet
: episode that covered a Midwest high school student who electrified his
: truck and is now working on doing the same to a Toyota Camry.

: The Camry project is interesting because he appears to be using
: lithium-polymer battery packs rather than the lead-acid type.
: http://broadband.discoverychannel.ca/?vid=44930

: If I do a conversion on my V40, it'll probably be diesel for now -- I
: have to go 50KM (30 miles each way) to work, and that looks to be the
: total limit for most battery systems -- no plug-ins at work to use.

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