Re: How much is the volvo worth?

#21

In news:m3q9d1da194oji6k0pdphsf09tqjp4q93p (AT) 4ax (DOT) com,
Ben Blaney <m7 (AT) privacy (DOT) net> decided to enlighten our sheltered souls with a
rant as follows

Quote:

Adrian wrote:

Pete M (pete.murray (AT) blue-nopressedmeat-yonder (DOT) co.uk) gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying :

It's very, very rare any of the major hire companies will actually
register the cars to themselves, they're normally registered to a
lease company which can make identification difficult if you don't
know what to look for.

Best way to spot Avis cars is ...

*Avoid* Budget / National / Hertz cars.[1]

So how do you spot their cars?

They're fucked.

*Ding!*

Haven't you ever wondered just who actually buys a car and keeps it for just
six months yet does 10,000 miles? There are car supermarkets full to the
brim with ex-hire cars, main agency stealerships tend to be full of "SOR"
cars and yet they're all sold as being "ex lease, only one driver", yet
there's never any sign at all of this mystical driver anywhere on any
paperwork for the car. The service history books are always vague as hell
with no accompanying receipts, the alloys are always kerbed, the door cards
are normally far more scuffed than you'd expect from a 6 month old lease
car, and the tyres normally show a lot of wear for just 10k miles.

Besides, where can you actually lease a car for six months from?

--
Pete M

Range Rover Vogue SE, Ford Capri (ressurection stalling)
Porsche 911 3.2 (For Sale)

COSOC #5
Scouse Git extraordinaire. Liverpool, Great Britain

#22

Adrian wrote:

Quote:

Ben Blaney (m7 (AT) privacy (DOT) net) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying :

*Avoid* Budget / National / Hertz cars.[1]

So how do you spot their cars?

They're fucked.

Well, yes, but how do you differentiate them from every other fucked car
out there...?

Does it matter? You're not going to buy any of them!

--
Ben Blaney

#23

Alan wrote:

Quote:

Remember the turbo is a very special peace of kit on this car, it's where
all the power comes from, check it out carefully, they can be a grand
upwards.
The police look after there cars very well.
Expect 27mpg tops though!!!
I think a T5 for a grand is a real bargain, irrespective of a few faults
and high milage....

Once you have driven one!, they are addictive.

I've had a 1995 850 T5 estate for about 6 months, bought from ebay. It's on
140,000 miles, and is still on the original turbo and clutch.
No smoke from turbo (or anywhere), only work I've done on it other than a
service is to sort out the air con, which cost about £40 in parts and a
re-gas.

German and Swedish are great for most parts at sensible prices
http://www.gsfcarparts.com/

These cars are *very* quick, and great fun, and handle well too for a big
bus, but the ride is firm.

Although insurance group 16-17 the insurance cost is not too bad (I'm 29
with clean licence), - cheaper that the T4 V40 my wife wants!.

I can get low 30's MPG if driven carefully, but that rarely happens :-P

I drove one first 6 years ago and have wanted one ever since, and won't part
with it now!

Alan.

I have the same problem, my father bought one last year, I have been

hooked ever since....

I have never, ever driven such a wolf in sheeps clothing, some people in
the T5 club have uprated the turbo and fitted modified fuel systems and
downpipes to increase power to around 400bhp - It's hard to tell exactly
though as most rolling roads wont measure that much power!

I drove my fathers last winter and left a scooby doo for dust in sunny
Blackpool, he looked kindo embarased and started looking to see if it
was an unmarked car.

White one's are great, everybody thinks your a coppa - I have driven one
and people where moving over to let me past, lol.

Andy

#24

"Steve" <someone (AT) microsoft (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:

Why are things so much more over there?

Taxes. Their (UK) major tax is the VAT, a sales tax. We were just
touring Scotland and England in May and the prices were about the same
as in the US except they were in £ not $, so, in effect, just about
everything cost twice what it does in the USA. However, that is
misleading because we have income tax, social security tax, and property
taxes taken out of our spending money in the USA, may still pay sales
tax in addition. Their (UK) VAT is included in the price.
--
Cheers, Steve Henning in Reading, PA, USA
Owned '67,'68,'71,'74,'79,'81,'87,'93,'95 & '01 Volvos.
The '67,'74,'79,'87,'95 and '01 through European Delivery.
http://home.earthlink.net/~rhodyman/volvo.html

#25

"Stephen Henning" <pighash (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:

"Steve" <someone (AT) microsoft (DOT) com> wrote:
Why are things so much more over there?

Taxes. Their (UK) major tax is the VAT, a sales tax. We were just
touring Scotland and England in May and the prices were about the same
as in the US except they were in £ not $, so, in effect, just about
everything cost twice what it does in the USA. However, that is
misleading because we have income tax, social security tax, and property
taxes taken out of our spending money in the USA, may still pay sales
tax in addition. Their (UK) VAT is included in the price.

As well as our income tax and national insurance that gets deducted from our
wages...

#26

In message <pighash-A469D4.08272213072005 (AT) news (DOT) isp.giganews.com>,
Stephen Henning <pighash (AT) aol (DOT) com> writes

Quote:

"Steve" <someone (AT) microsoft (DOT) com> wrote:
Why are things so much more over there?

Taxes. Their (UK) major tax is the VAT, a sales tax. We were just
touring Scotland and England in May and the prices were about the same
as in the US except they were in £ not $, so, in effect, just about
everything cost twice what it does in the USA. However, that is
misleading because we have income tax, social security tax, and property
taxes taken out of our spending money in the USA, may still pay sales
tax in addition. Their (UK) VAT is included in the price.

We also pay income tax and national insurance (social security tax).
Plug some numbers (in pounds, not dollars, obviously) into this to get
an idea of how much....

http://www.moneyweb.co.uk/products/tax/income/generalincometaxni.html

--
Steve Walker

#27

Pete M wrote:

Quote:

scuffed than you'd expect from a 6 month old lease car, and the tyres
normally show a lot of wear for just 10k miles.

Lol - odd how even the most underpowered daily rental shopping trolley can
leave hoooge number elevens everywhere...

--
"it's very dangerous to fall asleep in the bath, I keep myself awake by
constantly making toast"

#28

On 13/07/2005 13:27 Stephen Henning wrote:

Quote:

"Steve" <someone (AT) microsoft (DOT) com> wrote:
Why are things so much more over there?

Taxes. Their (UK) major tax is the VAT, a sales tax. We were just
touring Scotland and England in May and the prices were about the same
as in the US except they were in £ not $, so, in effect, just about
everything cost twice what it does in the USA. However, that is
misleading because we have income tax, social security tax, and property
taxes taken out of our spending money in the USA, may still pay sales
tax in addition. Their (UK) VAT is included in the price.

And VAT is 17.5% which is 2-3 times higher than your Sales Tax I
believe. Plus, a recently introduced "reciprocal agreement" means that
if we (in any EU country) buy off the 'net from US companies they have
to charge us VAT at the rate applicable in our country. We have a name
for this situation, Rip-off Britain :-(

BTW, can you explain something about US Sales Tax? I see on websites
things like "California residents add x% Sales Tax" which, presumably,
means that if you live in another state then you don't pay the Sales
Tax. Does this mean that if you live near the border between two states
that you can drive into the next state and do all your shopping tax-free?

Parish

#29

On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 14:36:25 +0100,
Parish (me (AT) privacy (DOT) net) wrote:

Quote:

BTW, can you explain something about US Sales Tax? I see on websites
things like "California residents add x% Sales Tax" which, presumably,
means that if you live in another state then you don't pay the Sales
Tax. Does this mean that if you live near the border between two states
that you can drive into the next state and do all your shopping tax-free?

I've never seen this (although it may well exist). When I first moved
here in the mid-80s, my recollection is that some drive-through "restaurants"
wouldn't charge sales tax, presumably for a similar reason.

Beverly
--
Many a smale maketh a grate -- Geoffrey Chaucer

#30

On 13/07/2005 14:40 Bev A. Kupf wrote:

Quote:

On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 14:36:25 +0100,
Parish (me (AT) privacy (DOT) net) wrote:
BTW, can you explain something about US Sales Tax? I see on websites
things like "California residents add x% Sales Tax" which, presumably,
means that if you live in another state then you don't pay the Sales
Tax. Does this mean that if you live near the border between two states
that you can drive into the next state and do all your shopping tax-free?

I've never seen this (although it may well exist). When I first moved

Here's an example plucked at random from a Google

http://www.exhibitapress.com/pages/ordering.html

Quote:

here in the mid-80s, my recollection is that some drive-through "restaurants"
wouldn't charge sales tax, presumably for a similar reason.

:-)

Parish