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Default Re: Some states want to punish fuel-efficient car drivers! - 01-13-2009 , 03:50 AM








Brent wrote:

Quote:
On 2009-01-09, necromancer wrote:

they've spent billions of dollars protecting
delicate corporations from the hoi polloi. Are you saying that the
Republicans were *wrong?*

Yep. And now, it is payback time...

Exactly how? By the democrats also expanding the size and scope of
government? The people are going to be the losers again.
The real problem is the party system. The exist only to promote and enlarge
themselves. All Representatives and Senators ( MPs here - not sure what we'd do with
the Upper House) should have to be independents.

Graham




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Default Re: Some states want to punish fuel-efficient car drivers! - 01-13-2009 , 08:41 AM






On 2009-01-13, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:

Brent wrote:

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:
Tim Howard wrote:

Oregon looks at taxing mileage instead of gasoline

The basic problem is that government in much of the west (not just the USA)
is now out of control and any pretence at democracy is only nominal.

The events of the last year or so have convinced me that only a full scale
revolution can restore peoples' rights and stop government poking its nose
into stuff it has no business in.

Nanny state finally went after something you care about?

It's the economy stupid ! But they've become unstoppable here now. They just
ignore protest.
So they did damage something you cared about.

They aren't doing anything differently than they did before, just more
of it. It was just us kooks that warned of the consquences.






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Default Re: Some states want to punish fuel-efficient car drivers! - 01-13-2009 , 08:43 AM



On 2009-01-13, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:

Brent wrote:

On 2009-01-09, necromancer wrote:

they've spent billions of dollars protecting
delicate corporations from the hoi polloi. Are you saying that the
Republicans were *wrong?*

Yep. And now, it is payback time...

Exactly how? By the democrats also expanding the size and scope of
government? The people are going to be the losers again.

The real problem is the party system. The exist only to promote and enlarge
themselves. All Representatives and Senators ( MPs here - not sure what we'd do with
the Upper House) should have to be independents.
you're getting closer to figuring it out. The facade of 'democracy' is
finally falling off before your eyes.




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Default Re: Some states want to punish fuel-efficient car drivers! - 01-13-2009 , 08:59 PM



In article <gki5pn$7tv$2 (AT) news (DOT) motzarella.org>,
Brent <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
On 2009-01-13, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:


Brent wrote:

On 2009-01-09, necromancer wrote:

they've spent billions of dollars protecting
delicate corporations from the hoi polloi. Are you saying that
the Republicans were *wrong?*

Yep. And now, it is payback time...

Exactly how? By the democrats also expanding the size and scope of
government? The people are going to be the losers again.

The real problem is the party system. The exist only to promote and
enlarge themselves. All Representatives and Senators ( MPs here -
not sure what we'd do with the Upper House) should have to be
independents.

you're getting closer to figuring it out. The facade of 'democracy'
is finally falling off before your eyes.
I retract my earlier comment. It's too late for tinfoil hats.


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Default Re: Some states want to punish fuel-efficient car drivers! - 01-13-2009 , 09:47 PM



On 2009-01-14, Tim McNamara <timmcn (AT) bitstream (DOT) net> wrote:
Quote:
In article <gki5pn$7tv$2 (AT) news (DOT) motzarella.org>,
Brent <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

On 2009-01-13, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:


Brent wrote:

On 2009-01-09, necromancer wrote:

they've spent billions of dollars protecting
delicate corporations from the hoi polloi. Are you saying that
the Republicans were *wrong?*

Yep. And now, it is payback time...

Exactly how? By the democrats also expanding the size and scope of
government? The people are going to be the losers again.

The real problem is the party system. The exist only to promote and
enlarge themselves. All Representatives and Senators ( MPs here -
not sure what we'd do with the Upper House) should have to be
independents.

you're getting closer to figuring it out. The facade of 'democracy'
is finally falling off before your eyes.

I retract my earlier comment. It's too late for tinfoil hats.
So you can tell me what the actual difference between the two parties
that control the government in the USA are? What's the choice we are
given? Where is the significant difference between them? There isn't
one. It's the choice between bigger more powerful and
intrusive government and bigger and more powerful and
intrusive government.




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Default Re: Some states want to punish fuel-efficient car drivers! - 01-15-2009 , 12:27 AM



On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 08:46:29 +0000, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:

Brent wrote:

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:
Tim Howard wrote:

Oregon looks at taxing mileage instead of gasoline

The basic problem is that government in much of the west (not just the USA)
is now out of control and any pretence at democracy is only nominal.

The events of the last year or so have convinced me that only a full scale
revolution can restore peoples' rights and stop government poking its nose
into stuff it has no business in.

Nanny state finally went after something you care about?

It's the economy stupid ! But they've become unstoppable here now. They just
ignore protest.

Graham

Uh huh.

http://tinyurl.com/6t3huj


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Brent
 
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Default Re: Some states want to punish fuel-efficient car drivers! - 01-15-2009 , 12:58 AM



On 2009-01-15, Gordon McGrew <gRmEcMgOrVeEw (AT) mindspring (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 08:46:29 +0000, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelations (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:



Brent wrote:

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:
Tim Howard wrote:

Oregon looks at taxing mileage instead of gasoline

The basic problem is that government in much of the west (not just the USA)
is now out of control and any pretence at democracy is only nominal.

The events of the last year or so have convinced me that only a full scale
revolution can restore peoples' rights and stop government poking its nose
into stuff it has no business in.

Nanny state finally went after something you care about?

It's the economy stupid ! But they've become unstoppable here now. They just
ignore protest.

Graham


Uh huh.

http://tinyurl.com/6t3huj
That happened in 2003. The war continues today. You just supported
Graham's point.




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Gordon McGrew
 
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Default Re: Some states want to punish fuel-efficient car drivers! - 01-19-2009 , 10:36 PM



On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 05:58:14 +0000 (UTC), Brent
<tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
On 2009-01-15, Gordon McGrew <gRmEcMgOrVeEw (AT) mindspring (DOT) com> wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 08:46:29 +0000, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelations (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:



Brent wrote:

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:
Tim Howard wrote:

Oregon looks at taxing mileage instead of gasoline

The basic problem is that government in much of the west (not just the USA)
is now out of control and any pretence at democracy is only nominal.

The events of the last year or so have convinced me that only a full scale
revolution can restore peoples' rights and stop government poking its nose
into stuff it has no business in.

Nanny state finally went after something you care about?

It's the economy stupid ! But they've become unstoppable here now. They just
ignore protest.

Graham


Uh huh.

http://tinyurl.com/6t3huj

That happened in 2003. The war continues today. You just supported
Graham's point.
Uh huh.



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