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I am having a problem with my otherwise reliable 1988 Volvo 740. For several years now when I turned the car in very cold weather the idle would falter a little. If I touched the gas pedal it would be just fine. Then I started noting several months ago that when I was driving in the highway (~70mph) occasionally when passing or going up hills, the RPM would completely drop and the car was coasting. If I let go of the accelerator completely and step on it again, the car would continue right away just fine. Well, at long last one day I was driving in the highway and after about 1 hour. The car lost power and coasted to a stop. I couldn’t restart the car. And after being towed home, I noticed fuse #1 was blown. So I replaced it, but the fuse blew again when I tried to move the car. Spoiling my victory dance, I might add ![]() I am in a new town, and my new mechanic didn’t want to look at the fuel pump (small town). I took it to another guy who noticed that fuse #1 will only be blown if the distributor was connected (he loosen the wire harness from underneath the distributor and showed me). So he replaced the distributor with a new one ($400 ouch!). Unfortunately after driving the car home, the next day when going up a hill near my house, fuse #1 blew again, and again, and again. So a neighbor helped me move my car home, where it is parked now. Following some advice on the internet about checking the fuel relay I short-circuited to terminals, but fuse #1 simply blew right away. So today I got under the car and unplugged the fuel pump, thinking that the fuel pump was draining too much current. BUT when I cranked up the engine with the fuel pump wires disconnected (from under the car). The fuse just blew up again, and again. I remembered reading on the internet that fuse#1 was also the fuse for the air sensor (I am not sure of this). So I went and unplugged the wire harness for the air sensor (because it is so easy right next to the air filter). And no difference, fuse #1 blew up when cranking the car. What else might be fuse #1 protecting? Right at this moment I am thinking that the wires from the fuel pump to the fuse box have a short circuit somewhere, but I can’t tell. I cut my hand trying to remove the plastic of the 2 wires that connect the fuel pump, but they look ok (I didn’t remove the whole plastic). I am removing the front seat to see if I can track the wires from the fuel pump to the fuse box. Any other ideas or suggestions? Anybody knows what else could fuse #1 protecting, or what could be making the short circuit? Thank you very much for your help, I’d appreciate any insight or suggestions. Thank you. Darien |
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With the distributor disconnected the ignition system won't report engine rotation to the ECU and the fuel pump won't be turned on. I cannot imagine what the mechanic was thinking by replacing the distributor, there is absolutely no way that a bad distributor can blow the fuel pump fuse, there is just no connection, so first things first, find a mechanic who actually has a clue, this guy is incompetent. Look for someone who specializes in European cars. Diagnosing this problem is really simple. Reach under the car and unplug * one of the wires from the fuel pump. Put in a new fuse and crank the engine, if the fuse doesn't blow, the pump is probably bad. If it does blow, unplug the fuel pump relay and try again. If that stops the fuse from blowing, then there's probably a short in the wiring from the relay to the pump, it comes up through a rubber bung above the pump and runs along the edge under the carpet up to the relay in the dash. |
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James thank you very much for your help. I live in a 15k little town in central Missouri, I couldn't find any mechanic that knows about European cars, unfortunately. I did unplug both wires in the pump from under the car and the fuse keeps blowing with BOTH wires disconnected. Do you know if there is anything else I should be looking for? Is fuse #1 protecting anything else besides the fuel pump? As you suggest, I will try replacing the wires going from the fuse/ relay to the pump, but it is a such a cramped space. I don't know how to work there effectively. I wonder if there is some particular trick I could use. Else I'll do what I can. Thank you very much for your help. Darien |
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| James thank you very much for your help. I live in a 15k little town in central Missouri, I couldn't find any mechanic that knows about European cars, unfortunately. I did unplug both wires in the pump from under the car and the fuse keeps blowing with BOTH wires disconnected. Do you know if there is anything else I should be looking for? Is fuse #1 protecting anything else besides the fuel pump? As you suggest, I will try replacing the wires going from the fuse/ relay to the pump, but it is a such a cramped space. I don't know how to work there effectively. I wonder if there is some particular trick I could use. Else I'll do what I can. Thank you very much for your help. Darien Ah, yeah the West coast over here is swarming with Volvos, it's rare to find a single residential street without at least a couple of them in driveways, so specialists are a lot easier to find here. These cars are very easy to work on in general, however they are different, and someone who is not familiar with the difference can have a lot of trouble. What year is this car again? There was a redesign of the 740 at some point, '90 I think, I'm less familiar with those but on the earlier 700's the fuel pump relay is in the fuse box which resides behind the ash tray under the radio. In those, if you pop off the little cover around the cigar lighter there's a screw, take that out, and you can pull out that whole pocket assembly under the radio. Once you've done that, there's a pair of clips you press and the whole fuse/relay panel lifts up and pulls out on an umbilical cord of sorts which gives you a lot more room to work with. Either way, when you find the relay, unplug it and see what happens. If the fuse still blows, then something else is wrong, but I suspect the culprit is something simple. I would carefully inspect the wires that come from the pump where they go up through the rubber bung in the floor pan and pull up the edge of the carpet to make sure they have not been damaged there. Also, don't forget the pre-pump which is located in the fuel tank and runs on the same circuit. You might have a short in the wiring back in that area too, on the sedans you can get to the top of the tank easily though a cover panel under the carpet in the trunk, I don't recall where it is in a wagon though. One other helpful trick that will save you some fuses. If you have an old headlight bulb laying around, use some clip leads and wire the high beam filament in place of the fuse then place the bulb somewhere where it will not melt the carpet. If the bulb glows brightly there's still a short, if it glows dimmer or not at all, the short has been cleared. |
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The 740 has a little primer pump in the tank which delivers fuel to the main pump.If the in tank pump has gone the main pump works overtime and the fuse melts in the holder or blows or both in my wifes 740 1988.The tank pump needs to be replaced .This is most common when the tank is low on gas (very common with women drivers to run the tank till its almost empty) .Mind you if you keep the fuel at a sensible level you avoid getting condensation and other issues in your fuel. |
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The 740 has a little primer pump in the tank which delivers fuel to the main pump.If the in tank pump has gone the main pump works overtime and the fuse melts in the holder or blows or both in my wifes 740 1988.The tank pump needs to be replaced .This is most common when the tank is low on gas (very common with women drivers to run the tank till its almost empty) . |
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Mind you if you keep the fuel at a sensible level you avoid getting condensation and other issues in your fuel. I don't need to "keep the fuel at a sensible level". It's always at a |
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Jon Robertson <jon5707 (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote The 740 has a little primer pump in the tank which delivers fuel to the main pump.If the in tank pump has gone the main pump works overtime and the fuse melts in the holder or blows or both in my wifes 740 1988.The tank pump needs to be replaced .This is most common when the tank is low on gas (very common with women drivers to run the tank till its almost empty) . I usually run my (petrol) V40 until the tank is almost empty, and I am not a woman. Last night for instance, I travelled for miles after the fuel warning light came on, then put 58 litres in (60l tank). Mind you if you keep the fuel at a sensible level you avoid getting condensation and other issues in your fuel. I don't need to "keep the fuel at a sensible level". It's always at a sensible level as far as I'm concerned. I fill it to the brim, run it to almost empty then fill it to the brim again, and think that doing it this way keeps the whole fuel system as flushed as possible. |
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Thanks everybody for the suggestions, I have had no time to look into the wires more. But I'll try this weekend. My 740 Volvo is a 1988 Sedan. I will look at those wires. When I did remove the pump relay the fuse did not blow. But it did blow at once when I replaced the relay with a wire (to shortcircuit the relay). I'll try checking continuity of the wires between the fuse box and the pump. I just need to try to get good access to the cable which seemed hard last time I tried. I will report back as soon as I get a chance. Again, thanks for your suggestions. Darien |
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